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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (7 children)

How long ago was this written? Sure it's not perfect but you can run a lot of distributions like fedora, ubuntu, opensuse etc etc whatever exactly as described. Maybe this is a joke I didn't understand lol. But in case it is not:

  • No need to use command line if you don't want to
  • Drivers are installed automatically (okay this might depend on the distro but in OpenSUSE I recall this being possible in a GUI)
  • There is a steam flatpak, and most user apps can be installed through a GUI, often as flatpaks
  • For a user like this, I see no reason to interact with system packages other than choosing when to update.
  • I'm a programmer and even I rarely edit ANYTHING in /etc on my desktop. Sure I edit stuff in ~/.config, but that is not stuff a "normal" user would need to do.

Now sure if you want to start customizing your login screen and this that and the other thing, eventually you will have to run something on the command line. But Windows doesn't allow much customization beyond changing your desktop background, and pales in comparison to the amount of customization you can do with KDE, all through a GUI

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

What you're saying is correct but all the things you're describing are not 100% foolproof. Flatpaks are community maintained and can contain misconfigurations.

Also the sandboxed nature and all these foreign concepts for new users would have a user question why they're not seeing their folders or why their cursor or theme doesn't match their system.

These systems are great but they're not nearly as polished as Windows and Mac.

It's great for us but Linux has always struggled with any semblance of full polish. I think you're overestimating the average computer user. Probably Ubuntu based distro's are still as close as we got to an OS for the regular person.

The introduction of new concept could be mitigated by a proper system of introducing and explaining these to a new user but it's difficult not to overwhelm them with info or keep them engaged and willing to learn.

TLDR;

True but it's not that simple

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

lets be real windows isnt polished either. the windows control panel and settings situation highlights that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At least they work.

I've always had issues with Linux that I'm happy to solve and capable of solving but a regular computer user would not know what to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I got into IT because troubleshooting Windows gave me a lot of experience. I don't think there is anything that comes to mind that would make apps less likely to have bugs then on Linux.

The only exception is gaming where a lot of game studios have years of experience with Windows APIs that they tightly integrated with in the past. Less needed now, but that's developer inertia for you.

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