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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (52 children)

X Windowing System is used in XWayland still. ~~X11~~ Xorg is no longer needed. RIP ~~X11~~ Xorg, you served us well.

Edit: Thanks to the note in the comments. I obvously meant Xorg is no longer needed, which is the widely used implementation of X11 protocol. This always confuses the hell out of me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (14 children)

lol, Wayland can't even start a desktop session on my machine, whereas X11 has worked without issues since 2009 (the last time I ever had to edit xorg.conf).

Sure sounds like X11 is the one who's "dead" around here!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Dead in the sense of development. ~~I thought this was obvious. But I explained it for you, here you go.~~ (Edit: I forgot to be nice. )

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

X11 is being actively developed, last commit on xserver was 7 hours ago, and it will probably continue being worked on for a long time

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We even disagree on what "dead development" means. :D ( Edit: To add a bit substance to my reply, minimal maintenance is not actively developed in my books. )

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

And almost all (if not all of it) is done by redhat engineers which will drop it when rhel 8 or 9 (whichever one still supports xorg) goes end of life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yep that'd be Wayland devs maintaining XWayland, which is part of the x.org codebase. There are no "X11 devs", they're the ones who started Wayland to get rid of that bowl of spaghetti!

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