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Inconvenient package management, manual theme installation and anything that involves changes to the system.
Thank you for the reply!
Fair.
I assume this is based on an experience with Kinoite? Am I right?
I'd argue "anything" is too harsh. But yes, there are definitely edge cases that are either very/too cumbersome or outright impossible to achieve on Fedora Atomic.
However, I'd argue that while the associated paradigm shift and learning curve do require some commitment to adjust to, it is a more sane way of running a system for most people.
Everyone has an opinion on this. Won't argue with yours.
Fair.
Btw, was I correct on the following?
Yeah, I had that at the beginning, then added to my fstab
and then it works, kludgy, but sddm is apparently working on allowing themes in /etc, sometime soon.
Thanks for pointing that out!
Bazzite also includes an entry in their documentation in which they explain how theming on Bazzite works exactly.
No. I know that installing a GTK theme requires putting the files in /usr/share/themes that is not in /home. That's why I said it. As an advanced user I love customization and freedom so immutable distros are a no go for me (and for many people imo). I didn't even bother trying.
FWIW, by creating your own images (through BlueBuild or tooling offered by uBlue) you could bake themes directly into those folders.
However, I totally understand why you'd not feel compelled to do as such 😅. Especially if your current distro/system works splendidly.
Sometimes, placing it to
~/.local/share/themesworks as well*.Thank you for sharing those links, I have been struggling with making
rpm-ostree composego from a yaml to an ISO, these look like they might reduce the level of effort!You're welcome!
FWIW, last year, through what became BlueBuild eventually, I had my own image with all kinds of modifications within a weekend. And, perhaps most curiously, I was a total noob when it comes to containerfiles, github,
gitetcetera. So, if I somehow managed, then you should definitely be fine.Wish ya good luck! Consider reporting back 😉.
Sounds like you ramped up pretty quickly! Were you pretty familiar with the terminal beforehand or just jumping in?
I'm chronically unable to finish projects but with such a fantastic tool maybe this one is the one? I'll try follow up if get something going.
Yes, I did have some familiarity with the terminal.
I hope it will work out for ya!
Thank you for your consideration 😊!
This.
Ehh I prefer system-wide installation. I think it's a habit from times when installing an Android app with root (so the OS treats it as a system app) increased its performance.
Fair.
Interesting. Didn't know this was a thing.
Yeah, I had that at the beginning, then added to my fstab
and KDE themes with sddm components install fine now (most themes install fine into /home, does Gnome really not have per user themes?)
Essentially you can tactically make things mutable as needed, use sparingly, but maybe not even trying lessens your opinion, no?
Why would I use a system that isn't supposed to change if I want to change it? It's just not for me and I don't want to waste my time reinstalling everything. And my opinion isn't completely proven without trying but I have theoretical knowledge.
There's a bunch of benefits, atomic updates, intrinsic rollback, security of immutability, safe automatic updating and it goes on. Some things are not quite ready yet, e.g. things like sddm which should probably install themes to /etc (which they're working on), so as often happens in linux, workarounds ensue. Making one directory mutable does not destroy all the benefits.
Mister/miss, you're going too far with this advertising imo.
You're welcome to your opinion ;)