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Well, the big Harris-Walz interview was a bit evasive (beehaw.org)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I wasn't expecting anything Earth-shattering coming out of this given that everyone at Fox News was salivating for fresh meat. Problem is, not having a straight answer for anything now becomes the narrative.

This was not a great look for either of them (as little time as Walz got).

If you haven't seen it, links below:

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’d rather have an adult in the White House, personally

Is a capable, genocidal adult better than a petulant child?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First, I don’t condone sending arms to Israel or any country or group that is intent on eradication of others. Israel is run by a shit leader.

Second, Hamas is also at fault.

Third, you damn well know if Trump had been in office, shit would be even worse in the Middle East.

So stop trying to make this a single issue election — it’s not. Some of us are capable of critical thinking and can easily see that America and the world are far worse off with your petulant child.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First, I don’t condone sending arms to Israel or any country or group that is intent on eradication of others. Israel is run by a shit leader.

Glad we agree on that at least.

Second, Hamas is also at fault.

Hamas is the only entity doing something material to stop the slaughter of Palestinian children. This is not to belittle the efforts of protesters, or of nation-states that are advocating at the UN level. But to watch the mass slaughter and forcible relocation of a people, and then wag your finger at them for fighting back, seems...idk, patronizing to their efforts? Like only the white people can save them, they aren't allowed to wield power themselves. I don't think that's exactly what you meant, but it's how it strikes me any time anyone says "well Hamas is bad too".

Third, you damn well know if Trump had been in office, shit would be even worse in the Middle East.

Yes, you're probably right. But that doesn't change the fact that Harris is endorsing continued genocide. I get that it isn't a single-issue election, but not all issues carry equal weight. I care about income inequality and Medicare-for-all and protecting the right to choose. But all of those issues seem miniscule when stood up side-by-side with literal genocide.

She will probably still get my vote because I care about all of those issues and I want to see the Overton Window shift left, but that doesn't mean i'm going to shut up about the genocide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You say that "only the white people can save them" line without any awareness of the irony that it gives your stance in not supporting a particular candidate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i'm always aware of the irony. fully-clad in irony armor over here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well it's spraying all over everyone else still