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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (20 children)

I'm about to drop a really dumb question in here:

Why do so many people dislike Apple? I have listed some of my problems with Apple (listed in no particular order):

  1. Keyboard layout
  2. I fundamentally disagree with FaceID and would prefer a fingerprint sensor
  3. Lack of customisation (you can't even hide the finder on MacOS)
  4. Apple makes it really difficult for people to leave their ecosystem

However, I really don't understand why people, ordinary people, dislike Apple, other than due to being overpriced. I mean I really think physical SIM cards are a thing of the past and less secure than eSIMs since you can't just take a physical SIM out using a pin. Although I heavily dislike the provisioning of USB 2.0 in 2024, the reality is that most of my files, even on my Android device, are transferred via networks. And yes, for the point about battery, I don't particularly care about the battery size as much as I do the battery life. Even then, I always have a charger in my bag. It also helps that I barely use my phone.

Once again, keep in mind this is from someone whose only Apple product is a Macbook.

I can understand hating on Apple as a company, I was furious at how long they took to throw USB-C on things, however, often times people provide arguments that are baseless, as are several "points" listed in this image.

Who cares about a physical capture button? Any professional required to use a camera for a living will not be using an iPhone. Who cares about physical SIM vs eSIM. Hell, I'm an advocate for eSIMs. Who cares about the unlockable bootloader? And really, with modern consumerism, who on earth is listening to hi-res wireless audio and not a song off of Spotify, YouTube, etc?

I agree with the 120 Hz point, there is no reason a flagship phone at a a flagship price should not provide a smooth refresh rate. I partially agree with the storage point, however, the vast majority of people do not take advantage of their phone's storage, so why would Apple be competitive here? They try to optimise for profit. I definitely agree with the point about the lack of modern USB. The lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack kinda sucks for everyone who owns devices that cannot be used with phones without this jack.

I'm opening to listening to other people's takes and discussing this with them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

no you got a point. i think your listed problems are the main problems you can have. with the hefty price and the "elite" vibe they sell in ads and so on, its really easy to hate. hateing apple feels like punching up.

and (most) android users dont realise that instead of beeing in apples eco system they are "trapped" in googles. I apprechiate apple for them not just blatently selling personal data, recorded from my phone. I also think in terms of polish there is no competiton. whoever used both, iphone and android phone, cant deny that ios is just far more polished. everything just works.

I personally dont like the apple proprietary ecosystem, but with no really good open source phone os, they are the best alternative on the marked atm. i dont know about laptops.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

How are we trapped in Google? It's a burden to move if I wanted to, but I can interface with everyone except apple just fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think their point is that nearly every other phone is in the Android ecosystem, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

There isn't really an Android ecosystem if you think about it. All Android devices can seamlessly communicate with Apple devices except maybe when it comes to APK's

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Oh. In that sense yeah. But most of us are also trapped on earth under that logic. I do think we need some more competition in the operating system market but I'm not sure who could pull it off. Even Microsoft bounced off of it. There is Graphene but it's a tiny sliver of the market.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

i am unsure what you mean about not interfaceing with apple? I heard in america imessage is a big thing that prevents that, but the rest of the world doesnt really use it. and besides there are many messangers that let you interface.

also i mean the burden to move. the burdon to leave the alphabet system is just as hard as the apple system imo. its just annoying both dont make it easy for any cross useage.

Edit: just wanna make clear i am not an apple apologist. i heavily prefer open source alternatives and use them whereever i can. i just dont get how people act as if andeoid/google/ect. are better or even good alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I agree it's hard to leave any ecosystem. But while Apple maintains you don't need any cross connection; Android, Microsoft, and (to an extent) Linux all play nice with each other.

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