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Pretty sure the people saying this behavior is okay are the same people who like to slam their seats into people's knees on airplanes.
Ok I'll bite. Fully reclining my seat shouldn't be something that's looked down on. The person slamming their knees into the back of my seat preventing me from fully reclining should be more looked down on. The reason is that reclining doesn't intrinsically interfere with anyone else, but pushing your knees into someone else's seat absolutely does.
All passengers have the same and equal freedom to recline their seat if they choose, except for the people in the emergency exit rows of course. It's part of what you're paying for when you buy the ticket. If that interferes with the knees of the person behind me that's not my problem. The designers of the seats should ensure that fully reclining the seat doesn't reduce knee room for the person behind me. The airline constructed this scenario all by themselves and if there's a problem with it they should solve it themselves. I shouldn't be asked to sacrifice my comfort on a flight I paid for (just like everyone else did) because they failed to do that.
If we're really insistent that this is somehow not 100% the airline's problem, I'd next argue that if you don't have enough knee room in a regular seat with the person in front of you fully reclined, then you're literally too big for that seat. You should buy a "comfort plus" ticket. The airline should force you to do so.
"but what about MY comfort" says the insufferable assholes who make everyone less comfortable by reclining on a plane. Like they're the only ones uncomfortable on a plane and they're the only ones smart enough to figure it out.
No, you aren't the smart one who figured it out and everyone else are NPCs, you aren't the main character, you're the asshole of the story.
So the seat is there and it can be reclined but I'm not allowed to recline it because.... courtesy? What if there just happens to be nobody sitting behind me? Should I still not recline as a gesture of solidarity to the people who feel social pressure not to recline? The airline is at fault if we're going through these mental calculations. Every passenger should feel free and unencumbered to use 100% of the facilities on the plane they paid for. The airline should ensure it. They've failed to keep their passengers comfortable if they don't. The blame for that shouldn't be passed to other passengers.
Yes, airlines literally have failed to keep customers comfortable, that's the entire point. Zero people are comfortable on that flight, and everyone knows that when someone reclines back into them it becomes even less comfortable. You aren't making your experience better, you're making someone else's worse. The airline failed by making seats uncomfortable, and you're making a bad situation worse for the person behind you.
Just because you can do things does not mean that you aren't an asshole for doing those things. You're allowed to block aisles in a grocery store, to go slower than the speed limit, to buy the last two packages of cookies when you know the person next to you also wants one, you're allowed to do lot's of things in life. It doesn't mean you're not an asshole for doing it. (In fact the entitled attitude you have without a care for anyone else kinda really drives home that you are)
If no one is behind you then recline away.
Reclining certainly does make my experience better.
I refuse to accept responsibility for the consequences of a scenario that I didn't create.
Ideally the airline should simply make it so that the seats can't recline.
Enjoy getting kicked repeatedly then. If you don't like it it's not the person kicking you who is responsible you can talk to the airline if you don't like it.
Actually you're right, it's that person's prerogative to try to make themselves as comfortable as possible with the resources they've been given. They shouldn't care about my comfort just as I do not care about theirs.
I suppose it's commendable that you are sticking to your guns, but holy shit I would hate to meet you in real life
I think I'm a pretty normal person. Unremarkable.