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[-] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Such a gorgeous answer 🤌🤌🤌

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago

Proton. It replaced PIA for me when it was introduced. Since I was already paying for Proton mail, there was no reason to keep paying for a separate VPN as well.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Reasonable decision. Proton is good for privacy 🙂

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

The answers are always going to be Mullvad, IVPN or Proton VPN. Windscribe is also a possibility.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

Mullvad VPN paid with Monero and NextDNS paid version.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Why NextDNS if you already query DNS through Mullvad?

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

I use Mozilla VPN, which is just Mullvad but more expensive. I want to support Mozilla though and enjoy the integration with my multi account containers so i stick with it

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Don't use express VPN. They make it very annoying to cancel. I thought I canceled once and it didn't work.

It takes three confirmations inside a hidden menu.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Mullvad. Cheap, simple, good, and everyone here seems to be infatuated with it.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I pay for proton. I use it on mobile, laptop, and desktop. Its quite seamless and unobtrusive. I like a vpn that allows me to forget im using a VPN

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I've been using Proton for half a year, and I'm considering buying the Unlimited plan

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Long time AirVPN user here - never had any issues.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Only VPN I would trust is Mullvad

Proton was accused to give access to mails to authorities : https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983

NordVPN and others are usually linked to your email + credit card stuff and you blindly need to trust them

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Not only have they provided the data, but they were even called "really easy to work with" by the feds

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

https://torrentfreak.com/private-internet-access-to-be-acquired-by-kape/

Some have pointed at Kape’s history. The company had previously operated under the name Crossrider and was active in the advertising space. Among other things, it installed toolbars with ‘potentially unwanted software.’ While the company has since switched to a focus on cybersecurity, this past has made some people suspicious.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Private internet access. It's super cheap too

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I switched to Proton from PIA when I learned of PIAs sketchy new owner Kape Technologies

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Excuse me for my lack of understanding, but why are there so many people looking to hide their traffic from their ISP with a VPN? Isn't HTTPS enough? Are you afraid of ISPs resorting to DPI or MiM to spy on their users? Is customer protection so weak in the US that ISPs are free to spy on their customers using aforementioned techniques?

Edit: I just realized that I left out people leaving under authoritarian regimes, for whom VPNs are unfortunately required to evade their government.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Is customer protection so weak in the US that ISPs are free to spy on their customers using aforementioned techniques?

ISPs not only sell cell location data to bounty hunters/anyone who can fork over money, they also sell ad targeting information about their customer. They have also injected Javascript into pages (selling new modems) and add(ed) unique headers to HTTP traffic so websites could identify individual users despite their best attempts.

Not all of them do all of this crap, but this shit is one of the reasons Mozilla enabled DoH in the USA by default. It also helped the push for getting HTTPS everywhere.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Because HTTPS protects only things you do on the site. ISP still knows which sites you connect to. Which YouTube video you are watching to. etc. F.E. in Russia ISP's have to keep logs of users interactions for half of year and give it to government when they need them.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Your ISP won't know what video you're watching, only that you're accessing data from youtube.com and other domain names.

That's not a problem for most generic websites, but authoritarian governments probably won't like you visiting any domain that looks like wikileaks.com or voanews.com.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

To me, the problem is you are instead giving over all of your info to the VPN company, and still be tracked by other means such as fingerprinting of devices, cookies/site data or browsing patterns. Is some random VPN company more trustworthy than my ISP and who’s to say they aren’t sharing the information? Plus, the could also be subpoenaed/NSLed if that’s the concern.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I'd be more willing to trust a VPN company with this data than an ISP. The former's entire business hinges on providing privacy to their customers while the latter can just sell your data to whoever they want and most people wouldn't bat an eye.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Because my ISP stopped my internet access last time they were contacted by a copyright holder whose thing I torrented.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I see surprisingly few mentions of WindScribe in this thread. I've had nothing but good experience with them and I always read their promo emails in full (they send very few of them, and their marketing team is hilarious)

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I use a combination of self hosted wireguard servers at family and friends. They connect together with Tailscale. One of the endpoints connect to the Internet through Mullvad. This makes it easy for every single device I own to connect to either Mullvad or any of a number of possible regular ISPs.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

None atm. DNS over HTTPS cos im poor using mullvad's DNS server instead of VPN . Makes it bit more difficult for my ISP

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

ProtonVPN. The VPN works great. I'd use some of their other services but they're pretty restrictive unless you're on more expensive plans than I'm on.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I don't. Your ISP can hardly see anything you do online. Almost all websites are encrypted with HTTPS and if you are concerned about them seeing what domains you visit you can just change your dns server to quad9 or something else privacy respecting. A more valid usecase for VPN is preventing websites from tracking you IP address, downloading "Linux ISO's" or bypassing geographical blocks and for that I used mullvad but I am looking for something else now that they blocked port forwarding.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

If you torrent copyrighted material in Germany, you definitely want a VPN. Private law firms "representing copyright holders" regularly request information about consumers based on source IPs/protocol/ports from ISPs with a court's rubber stamp, then send out demand letters for hundreds of euros, with a risk of thousands if you choose to fight it.

Sometimes they follow up if you ignore it, sometimes not. It is horribly oppressive.

tl;dr germans who torrent from a consumer internet service should use a vpn

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Selfhosted DigitalOcean VPS with SOCKS 5 SSH tunnelling for masking my home IP when web browsing and OVH VPS with OpenVPN server for masking my home IP for my local seedbox server. I don't really need commercial VPNs since I only really need basic functionality to mask my IP and I don't really need a shared service to do that.

YMMV, of course.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Windscribe. Prices are great, unlimited bandwidth, and 1Gbps servers for no additional cost. They have a free tier as well. They’re very privacy focused. Been a customer of theirs for probably like 5-6 years now.

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