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[-] [email protected] 230 points 1 week ago

a) good for Barcelona

b) fuck airBNB

c) also, fuck airBNB

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago
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[-] [email protected] 167 points 1 week ago

Air BnB is destroying the housing market in my area. That said, it’s exposing a demand for something that doesn’t otherwise exist. In addition to hotels, people also want to be able to rent larger spaces, with a kitchen so they don’t have to eat out every night, and multiple bedrooms so the adults don’t have to go to bed at the same time as the kids. Hotel developers should be taking notes.

[-] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago

You're completely correct on the exposed demand issue. I would also add that in most cities (in the United States anyway) hotels can only exist in very specific corners of the city due to zoning, often in just three places: downtown (expensive!), the suburbs (so not even in city limits), and "motel alley" (which is usually an old highway in askeevy part of town lined with mid-20th century fleabag accommodations that are slowly being abandoned/bulldozed). For some cities this isn't an issue, but in others it's a problem for accessing the tourist attractions, especially if the tourists in question don't have a rental car. Then there are the non-tourist visitors to consider: if you're in a city to visit family, you're probably going to want to stay as close to them as possible. Same with a lot of business travelers. This is a bit of a conundrum when the nearest hotel (or affordable/decent hotel) is a 30 minute drive away.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

It's called an extended-stay hotel, they exist but unfortunately they're not that common.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

They are also, guess what, as expensive as a hotel. What was airbnb? Cheap. In the end it does come down to the money because it used to be a big difference between some apartments offered on airbnb vs hotels. Nowadays this got smaller, since airbnb raised fees and whatnot.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Tbh, tourism should be expensive. We should prioritize the basic needs of people such as a place to live before offering cheap luxuries.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

airbnb isnt cheap tho, now a days it costs about as much as a hotel and they have way less amenities.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

candlewood suites, never had a bad experience.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I haven't had any issue finding those amenities in hotels in Europe (at least in Berlin, Munich, Madrid, and Málaga, which is not an exhaustive study by any means). I've seen a few that look to be entire small apartment buildings converted into hotels, which isn't great for the local housing market, but all the ones I've stayed at were clearly built for that purpose. So that's the good news, I guess.

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[-] [email protected] 136 points 1 week ago

Good, let the people who live there live there.

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[-] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago

AirBNB pisses me off, because if you're claiming to be a BNB, then where is my breakfast?

[-] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

It's like the Holy Roman Empire. It's not an airline, nor is it a bed and breakfast.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

That's the air part

[-] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago

On one hand, biting that hand that feeds

On the other, I've lived in buildings with AirBnBs and they're a scourge. The owners and renters of short term rental properties are mostly (not all) awful - residents should be owning property, not spoiled rich landlords eating up space for tourists. Fuck AirBnB.

I also visited Spain last month and I've never felt so unwelcomed in my life while in Barcelona and would never go back, so I guess the anti-tourism is working 😂

[-] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

I can understand that locals are revolting around the world. The amount of tourism exploded in the last decades. The way tourists are behaving all around doesn't help.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

Barcelona has 12 tourists per capita per year. They could easily do with a half of that.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Barcelona is a diverse economic engine; it’s not a tourism monocrop town. It doesn’t need your patronage.

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

in huge blow for platforms like Airbnb

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Good. That's what hotels are for.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

AirBNB is legit more expensive than hotels now for far worse service. It's a get rich quick scheme.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

It depends on the city really. I find that some cities hotels are just a way better value but other time air b and b can be good. Like for cabins and beach houses for example.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Renting out cabins and beach houses makes way more sense, since those are typically places you wouldn't live in full time. The rest of the short term housing rentals end up driving up the cost of living.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Airbnb sometimes offers a good user experience but it's not hard to understand that Airbnb is not benefiting the city's population. And I really don't mind going to a hotel. Actually I prefer it since I have a better idea of what to expect. Good for Barcelona, let the world follow their example!

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

I think it can benefit in certain situations. Like when we traveled to a European country we stayed in an AirBnB that was being rented out while the family who lived there was in summer vacation. So they essentially got to subsidize their vacation with Airbnb.

As far as units that are permanently Airbnb style short term rentals though I agree. Terrible for the actual residents in the city.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Good job, wish more places done this

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Multinational corporations that operate hotels like this 👍

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

2028... so plenty of time for appeals and there will be basically no downward pressure on the housing market there since there is no big rush to offload 10k units that won't make money.

It's too bad, would have been better if they just revoked it immediately and banned it in the city.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

What is this license that they have?

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