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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you insist on being the candidate, Joe, please take actual drugs before debates. As many as you can.

[–] [email protected] 232 points 4 days ago (6 children)

If only. Dude looks and sounds like he's about drop dead. I cannot begin to express how enormously frustrated with the democrats I am.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is our choice. Come November I have no choice but to vote for this mumbling old man.

[–] [email protected] 188 points 4 days ago (25 children)

I would vote for a wet sandwich before I vote for Trump, but Jesus Christ, it would be nice if the democrats fucking tried.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Democrats suffer from a condition that I've come to call "Democratic Realism," named after Capitalist Realism. No matter how much they get their shit kicked in. No matter how badly they do. No matter how little they accomplish. No matter how badly they look or do in debates. Democrats always believe, beyond a shred of doubt, that they'll win elections without trying. Not because of their own merits, but because they're just the only "real" choice; they simply can't fathom anyone willingly voting for their opponents.

Hillary barely campaigned in the "flyover states" that she needed to win because she couldn't be fucking bothered to actually try. It wasn't worth the effort to try and persuade people she thought of as her lessers. And the DNC just went "well, it's obviously her turn. She's been waiting for the chance at the presidency for 20 years now. We should go ahead and let her be president." Because that's the mentality. They don't have to "win" elections. They just pick a candidate and they get to win, because there is no "real" alternative. That Bush and Trump won don't indicate that, yeah, actually, you do have to fight for the people who are voting for you, otherwise they'll vote for the schmuck that appeals to their basest and most venal instincts. Those were just flukes...right? And you don't have to inspire confidence and admiration in others, because they should just recognize how smart and accomplished and inoffensive their candidates are, and that they're told to vote for them by people that are smarter than they are, so they should just shut up and do it.

It's a party driven less by any kind of ideological goals and more by a pervasive sense of smug, impotent, lazy egotism. And, yeah, they'll get a shitload of votes in the elections because the alternative always seems to be someone who is one goose-step shy of a literal Nazi. Biden will probably even win the popular vote. Y'know....just like Hillary did...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Good essay. I don't know if you remember after Obama won in 2008 a bunch of democratic party apparatchiks came up with this idea of "the coalition of the ascendant" and that they pretty much had the government locked in for a generation, due to support that would never waver for them amongst immigrants, yuppies, tech bros, etc. They didn't need the working class anymore and the Republicans would be the minority party for many years.

Two years later the democrats were wiped out in the midterms.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The coalition of the ascendant concept is kind of insane when you remember for a moment that the popular vote is kinda worthless in winning elections. The electoral college is structured in such a way that conservative whites have a larger share of the electorate relative to their minority peers. It doesn't matter if you're a lock for California and New York (enclaves of coastal elites and minorities alike) if you lose the entirety of the South, Southwest, and Midwest, enclaves of...the opposite of those things, really. This 538 article on it has links to other discussions related to this and represents a fascinating look into the relationship between popular votes and electoral votes. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-difference-2-percentage-points-makes/

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago

Yep. Same boat.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (4 children)

They won't until they absolutely have to.

Which at this rate is fucking never.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (4 children)

it would be nice if the democrats fucking tried.

They think they don't have to, they just have to keep you scared enough of the GOP that you'll vote for them out of terror. It's how Biden won the first time, after all.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (11 children)

This is the choice that was forced onto us. The Democrats could have had a Primary and instead they chose this for us.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I keep squeezing my eyes shut and trying to will myself into the timeline where Bernie won.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All i can think is 'imagine if Bernie was 10yrs younger...'

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Libs in 2016: I love Bernie, it's just too bad about his age

Libs in 2020: Biden has a stutter. Don't be ageist.

Libs in 2024: We had no idea!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

And remember how they made a big deal about Bernie's age in 2020? They asked for medical records, and even after getting letters from two or three doctors, that wasn't enough. It was like the birthers all over again: when they got what they asked for, they moved the goal posts and wanted the long-form documents.

Meanwhile, not a peep about Biden, who is Bernie's junior by fourteen fucking months, as if that made all the difference.

And then, four years later, it wasn't an issue anymore. Just run the guy again.

On top of that, the DNC would condescend to anyone left of center about electability.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I see your post is missing the required 20,000 word essay in how the Republicans are worse then democrats... thus you are a secret Russian Republican antisemite!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

that's what happens when your most leftist party is just right of center.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

If the point of taking drugs is to "enhance your performance" then Biden took every drug he should NOT have taken before that debate.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

2016 election: idiot one or two.
2024 election: felon or Designated Survivor.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If it does what he showed tonight it needs to go back to r&d

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The whole malarkey shit they are trying to push like it's a great image is so fucking dumb, it would be cute if my grandpa in hospice said it but it's fucking incredibly out of touch when the president of the United states says it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They can't deny that he's older than dirt, might as well lean into the cuter parts about that fact

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

When do we start fetishizing his cute wittle ear hair

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

When I thread it between my gleaming moist teeth.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This meme might not age well. Biden doesn’t look so good in the debate so far.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, he is getting the shit kicked out of him. Trump is spouting insane lies, but Biden is stumbling over his words on every response.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The only word salad moment(as of 15 minutes ago when I just had to turn it off) was near the start when Biden just kinda trailed off saying random words.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And when he said he beat medicare

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That was certainly the worst of it, but it didn't get much better for him, he fumbled over a lot of his delivery. It was much harder for him though, he was using facts and figures while Trump was just saying whatever lie popped into his head.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

If this Biden feeling ‘jacked up’, I shudder to think what he’s like when he’s not. He’s not doing a great job of spruiking his own achievements and his answers are devoid of stats or figures - likely because they weren’t able to bring notes in. He’s sadly making trump look more coherent and lively by comparison.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

Yeah, this is pretty painful to watch. Trump is a piece of shit, but he's way more forceful and even somewhat coherent. Meanwhile, Biden's just above a whisper and is somewhere between stuttering and rambling.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Staying hydrated is known to increase performance.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good old dihydrogen monoxide.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Biden needs that pure old Colombian cocaine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Clearly they should have pumped him full of unicorn blood and stem cells.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The conspiracy theorists all say Joe is supposed to step down and Gavin Newsom somehow is added to the ticket which then will win. These conspiracy theorists also say that candidates are selected in advanced by the powers that be and it's all pagentry to deceive the gullible masses. These people would also say Joe's bad debate performance was part of the pagentry. Just remember this post later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Gavin Newsom doesn’t even seem to be all that popular in California. I have no idea why people think he’s a winner.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just imagine for a short ... Biden takes drugs. AND still has the better answers to all our problems than this un-drugged (?!) 3yo mind in a slightly younger body. Wouldn't THAT be a real game changer? Shouldn't DJT then too use drugs? No?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

i wish he was on drugs; maybe he would have done better.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Should have took a lot more.

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