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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

tl;dr: AI + competition

Utilizing the otherwise quiet month of August gives Google a chance to show off new AI ideas on Pixel ahead of Apple’s next iPhones which, now, look to be packed with “Apple Intelligence.”

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I've never seen more hype around anything in my life than AI. This is so wild. Can't wait for this fad to die.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

It's something similar like the dotcom crash where everyone and their mother is looking to capitalize on The Next Big Thing™ which will then crash spectacularly but will leave a host of survivors that'll be the next big companies.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

especially remote ai that relies on google's servers, because it's not even impressive anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ironically Google is kind of the only one actually doing on device AI.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Where? Apple and Microsoft are the only ones I've seen offering on-device AI. It's been proven that Google is lying about this on several occasions. Mostly with their photo editor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gemini Nano. It's in Pixel Recorder and Gboard but multimodal capabilities are coming soon. It's very limited to a couple phones and not many companies outside of Google have access, but it has been used in production since last year.

Apple does not have on device AI in production today. Microsoft's "Copilot+PCs" launched less than 2 weeks ago, but are significantly more powerful machines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apple does not have on device AI in production today

Nor does Google. It says right on this page:

Later this year, Pixel and Android users will be the first to experience its new multimodal capabilities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Huh? Multimodal is coming later this year (like I said in my last comment).

They have had on device Gen AI running on Pixel phones in production since last year.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

I don't understand any of these words and they all sound super made-up and ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is no way it’s going to die.

I’ve been using various “Ai” things and it’s helped me significantly with my work. (Freelance)

Just yesterday I was able to complete a 15-20 minute task in just 4 minutes.

I use it everyday and it’s enabled me to do so much of my busy work in minutes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

This has already been discussed in other comments in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Writing it off as a fad is rather ignorant. Sure there’s a lot of hype and bullshit surrounding AI, but it already has strong use cases and earns a profit for the companies involved. It’s still the early years for the tech too, so it is reasonable to expect it to improve in the coming years, both in terms of accuracy and performance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I am still managing, but feel I'll have to pay premium to avoid that shit soon.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's still a fad. Sure it has some uses but most of it is hype right now and they throw AI onto everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

The thing is you don't really hear much about AI solutions which are actually disrupting multiple industries right now. You only hear about toys, this is done so you get used to AI over time. It's very important to prepare the ignorant and socially conservative public to avoid the next wave of luddites.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Saying it's not a fad is rather ignorant. Sure it has practical uses but it's also being shoved into literally everything, even if purely by name, with little to no actual improvement.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree with the idea that AI is being shoved into software without much purpose or thought, but that’s got little to do with whether it is here to stay or not. It’s here to stay for its many practical uses, be it new personal assistants like what Apple has shown off with Siri, text summarization like what is being added to browsers, rephrasing/tone checking like what is being added to office software, or code completion and debugging like what is being added to code editors. These applications have proved their worth, and even if some applications are just because hype, these applications are here to stay.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Some of it will stay. Most of it will go. That's how fads work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I’m sitting here really hoping that models hit a plateau in capabilities soon. Continuing to get smaller/more efficient would be great, but if the capabilities of our best models would plateau for a bit and give society time to adjust to the impact I would be very happy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hasn't it already kind of p;plateaued, or slowed at least. They where promising the world and it seems to have kind of halted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It’s certainly not moving as fast as their promises (what ever does), and perhaps has slowed, but for me at least it’s too early to call a plateau. Perhaps someone who works in the field or follows more closely can provide a better characterization, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

We’re already seeing a slight leveling off compared to what we had previously. Right now there is a strong focus on optimization, getting models that can run on-device without losing too much quality. This will both help make LLMs sustainable financially and energy-wise, as well as mitigate the privacy and security concerns inherent to the first wave of cloud-based LLMs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

They have always followed the iPhone event haven’t they? Maybe this year they think they have enough advantage to lead