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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Time to De-Google I guess. I will keep using Firefox and if or when I come across any website pulling this crap I won't hesitate to blast them to eternity. I suggest everyone else do the same please.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Time was a decade ago... But better now than never.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m just going to stop using sites that implement this tech. Maybe I’ll even make a site and actually contribute to the web with all the free time I’ll have 😇

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It'll be next to impossible when those websites are your bank and Netflix etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not using Netflix is very possible :) Even easier with the pricing they are up to lately.

(But I know you were just listing some examples)

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's small, but here's a real actionable item that you can do to help:

Put a gentle "Use Firefox" (or any other non-Chromium-based browser) message on your website. It doesn't have to be in-your-face, just something small. I've taken my own advice and added it to my own website: https://geeklaunch.io/ (Only appears in Chromium-based browsers.)

We can slowly turn the tide, little by little.

Copy and paste:

<p>
    This site is designed for <a href="https://firefox.com/">Firefox</a>,
    a web browser that respects your privacy.
</p>

(I also posted this on the HN discussion.)

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Your browser supports Web-DRM. Some features might not be available.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This website does not support browsers that support web-drm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

One way to hide it for Firefox users.

<p class="not-firefox-warning">
    This site is designed for <a href="https://firefox.com/">Firefox</a>,
    a web browser that respects your privacy.
</p>
<style>
@-moz-document url-prefix() {  .not-firefox-warning { display: none; }}
</style>
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I have a banner on mine as well that I did a couple weeks ago: https://toast.al

I’m mad tho since it has false positives with Mulch / Bromite on Android. I wasn’t able to find something right away to detect it, but the DRM stuff would probably work.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Honestly this won't effect me a ton, though I wouldn't be surprised if I have to boot up a windows virtual machine just to check my bank in a few years cause my bank doesn't know what Linux is and doesn't want go trust it. I'm mad about it but given slowly but surely I've been replacing everything with FOSS stuff. I just fear one day they will force you to use corpo approved software to use WiFi , or get cell service

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It will likely not work inside a VM. Haven't looked into the implementation, but they will probably want to use the hardware DRM manufacturers have been sneaking into the CPUs and GPUs.

So you will be required to use "approved" CPU, "approved" OS and "approved" browser to access certain websites, as it is already the case with online streaming. You can kiss foss goodbye.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Entirely separate laptop purely for those annoying sites it is, then. At least until the approval inevitably gets cracked and can be bypassed.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Just keep dropping Google shit and recommending to others.Critical mass will be hit at some point. There are too many smart and capable people in the world to succumb to a Google world.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (21 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IE in the 2000's called, it wants it's dream back.

Between this, hobbling adblockers and performing enough monopolistic acts to warrant swift government action, I really see this more as Chrome dying than the web itself.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

That's bleak

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So this is a problem for all browsers based on Chromium right???

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, it is a problem for all browsers, present and future, period.

The point is that major websites, even government ones might decide to be only available on Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

So much for internet freedom…

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (6 children)

You will use the web as google said or you won't use it at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google is underestimating my ability to drink all day and forget the internet entirely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Ah but what you don't remember is when you're drunk you go on the Internet and stumble around and talk incoherently

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

DRM for the web.

Basically, if your browser modifies a web page in any way (such as by blocking ads, applying a theme, disabling javascript, whatever), the server would be able to detect this and deny access.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Google is pushing some bullshit that would allow websites to check if a client (you, your browser, your device) is on the okie-dokey list. If yes, you may enter e. g. Youtube, if not the you're out. It's like a bouncer for websites and of course Google would be that bouncer. So you might stand out in the rain if you are using one of the following:

  • VPN

  • Adblock

  • Non-Chromium browser like Firefox

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Website: Hello, Name and ID
Chrome: Hello! I'm Chrome by Google and here's my ID
Website: OK, you are allowed in.
Adblocker: Get Lost Ads!
Website: You leave right now, Goodbye

Although it's not just adblockers it's also uncertified browsers

Website: Hello, Name and ID.
Firefox: Hello I am Firefox and here's my ID.
Website: Your not on our list, GET LOST!

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