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[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I miss the physical fingerprint reader on the back. Plus you could program it to pull your notification screen down.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

rear fingerprint reader was peak and I don't know why it went away.

with a rear reader I could grab my phone and it would be unlocked with an index finger before I've even lifted it to my face. it was all one smooth motion.

Now, I have to pull it out of my pocket, orient it correctly so my thumb can hit the correct part of the screen, half the time shake the phone or swipe up to wake up the screen to make the reader work consistently, then hold down my thumb for at least a second longer than I would have to with my rear reader.

dumbest so called "advancement" in years.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Same. It was in the perfect spot, and worked 100% of the time for me.

The in-screen one on my Pixel 6 works maybe 50% of the time, and for whatever reason just hates my right thumb, the one it really needs to be able to read. Even with it saved 5 times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Mine used to work somewhat. Then I got fed up with the errors when unlocking and deleted my finger prints. Now, I get bit with that known bug on Pixel 6 that won't let you register fingerprints (I tried again when I replaced the screen protector - even with no protector). I gave up on that fingerprint reader and 5G on this phone. It still works overall so I refuse to replace it for another year or two.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When I got my P7 initially, it was so bad that after a couple of days I threw it in a drawer and went back to my old phone.

Then someone said you have to lick your thumb or rub it on your forehead before you register it. So I did both. And now it works like 95%. The other 5% I have to lick it again to get it working. Don't ask me why. Yes, it is stupid. Yes the old one on the back is still better, but it's not terrible anymore...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Pixel 6 Pro worked marvelous for me all the time. I have the 8 Pro now, and now the fingerprint reader is a real mess.

But yeah, the reader on the back was perfect.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I sort of had the opposite experience. My pixel 5's fingerprint reader worked about 20% of the time. It was so bad. I've actually had a much better experience with the Pixel 7's in-screen one. It's probably 90% successful. Before my Pixel 5, I had a OnePlus 6, and that one was like 99% successful.

I did prefer the location on the back, though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I bought a Pixel 5 two years ago for exactly that reason (fingerprint on the back) and its small size. I love this phone but honestly the fingerprint reader works 70-80% of the time depending on sweaty hands etc. and by now I wish it was on the front because it often lays on the table and I have to pick it up. It all has its pros and cons and I think an ultrasonic under the display is the best option (right after apples face id).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Pixel 5 is perfect. I'd love a updated model that size.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Never had issues with the Pixel 2 XL. The reader worked great. Even with stuff on my hands it would still work,eventually (2-3 tries). It picked up great with dry hands.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I recently switched to the 8a from a Poco F1, and this is the one thing I really miss...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I bought a Samsung S24 recently but sold it because of the terrible ultrasonic fingerprint reader. I guess I have too dry thumbs or something. Using lotion helped for a few hours at a time but I'd rather not use lotion all the time because of my phone. Tried a few tricks like registrering my prints twice etc. but no dice. Meanwhile the old optical reader on my old phone Moto G84 worked perfectly.

So my experience from this is that ultrasonic is not always better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

The ugly trick is to wipe your thumb on your greasy forehead before using it. Gross, but works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I don't even like the fingerprint or facescan locks. It wouldn't be that hard for someone to force my phone open while I'm asleep or something. That's why I use a complicated ass pattern and password.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I used to work on diesel engines. I'd end up with different looking fingerprints all the time from grease, oil random little cuts, etc. I'd hope this tech is better able to discern fingerprints from noise. It was a little annoying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I was a diesel mechanic as well. Never had a problem with the old readers.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It might not be. If your fingerprints are physically changing, then an accurate scanner should not recognize a fingerprint that's changed after the fact. If anything you're looking for a less accurate scanner to help with this issue. But a less accurate scanner could let others in your phone too.

A family member is a massage therapist and no fingerprint reader has managed to recognize their fingers. Not even the old capacitive types in the rear. They don't even recognize there's a fingerprint present. It's like tapping with a wiener.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

1.) Used to be a dishwasher and even the government had a hard time getting my prints.

2.) A wiener (that's attached to a human) can actually be used and make a recognizable print on a fingerprint reader. (Not recommended for daycare workers.)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Someone took their wingerprint

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now I wanna set up my phone to accept my wiener.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't let your dreams be dreams.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

If my dreams can't be dreams, they can't be anything. Reality doesn't support what matters to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

don't knock tapping with a wiener, it's all our origin story

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The tech has been in Samsung phones for several years, and is good enough that one's fingerprint will read through vinyl gloves if they aren't too scrunched up. It's fast and decent.

Does make me wonder though, it's a Qualcomm tech. Does that mean Google is finally going back to Qualcomm chips? The pixel modems have been trash ever since they left.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I instinctively tried to open mine with vinyl gloves on once and immediately thought "I'm dumb, gotta take these gloves off first." That was a good shock when it actually worked first try, much confusion...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

My fellow diesel tech. Fucking yes this fucking problem right here hahaha. Skin peels a bit, little scratch or cut, got some shit on my hand to dry it out.... And whole new finger print. Add this print, and once it hears it stops working again. Hahahaha fuck my life.

My galaxy s24 has been pretty spot on though, honestly works most of the time unless my hands are very dirty.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the more a fingerprint reader "allows" for oil, cuts, and any other change to the fingerprint it has stored, the more it becomes useless. the fingerprint is the key, the more the tech lets the lock change and morph the more insecure the lock becomes, and the more it will allow just about any key to work in it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

That's exactly why I'd hope an ultrasound would ignore things like color difference. I wouldn't expect it to ignore cuts without an ai component.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've done so much work with my hands. I thought something was wrong with my phone, my partner walked up finger on phone, opens immediately. Me, half the time I need to use the code because the fingerprint doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. I used to register my off hand, as that was a little less likely to get damaged.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

The problem is I'm prone to accidents so my non dominant and has scars from cutting myself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Me too, the random little cuts are by far the worst because it can take weeks until the phone registers your fingerprint again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Thank God it allows for more than one finger. I used to start running low on undamaged prints!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What if you used a part of your palm instead of a finger?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I solved the problem by getting a better job, but at the time, it wouldn't have helped. Same problem. Swimming in motor oil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hmm, for your use case face unlock should be more reliable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

If you thought my hands were dirty...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

All I know is the one on my 7a is absolute garbage.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This thing is so ugly... What's with the GIANT extended camera bar?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

At least it's level on a table because of the bar

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I preferred when it was a full squared stripe instead of trying to round the edges. Own it if your going to do that.

(As previously mentioned, it allows them to have some of the best phone cameras and let it sit flat on a table)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They rounded it on the wrong axis

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I kinda like the square-ness of the camera bar after having used it a bit. makes it real easy to fish out of a pocket.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the size of the pixel 9 is good I'll upgrade. Other than that I'm good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You'll be able to get the "Pro" in both big and small sizes this time

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Comparatively though the pro and regular size of the 7 do not give me hope. The 8 is fine but I haven't been reading up on the 9 rumours yet.

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