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[Rant] I hate the modern internet (lemmy.world)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I am fucking scared of the mass surveilence nightmare direction that the internet and the world as a whole is going towards... C2PA, france hacking itself into citizen phones, the UK anti encryption law, EU's chat control, etc. Im also sick of and hate the "you will own nothing and be happy" mentality that corpos try to push. I dont wanna know how the world will look like in 5-10 years.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There's actually a lot to look forward to. In fact you're talking on one of those reasons right now.

e2ee is only a recent thing which is significantly more private. You can have an entirely private FOSS operating system that has parity with Windows for free.

The privacy and FOSS ecosystems are thriving more then ever. There are more VPN providers then ever before, and Tor gets better and better.

We have decentralized social media like the fedi which gives complete freedom against corporate control.

We have all sorts of amazing FOSS tools out there. We even have an AI that can be run completely locally and with custom unfiltered models that is very close to competitive with ChatGPT, and also free.

None of these things even existed like 10 years ago, or were in their infancy. They're all competitive to modern corporate alternatives. Privacy alternatives are by far in the best state they've ever been, and they'll just continue to improve as the community grows larger.

We can own all these tools and self host. In fact we've never been able to "own" anywhere near as much as we can today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thank you for the Hopium

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What is this local ChatGPT alternative you are talking about?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

aaand there's intel management engine and amd platform security procesor which undermine your foss efforts on most platforms

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why do people want to be doomers over literally nothing. There's so much good that you're just ignoring.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Intel can read RAM directly and other parameters using their built in security systems on certain chips. Maybe do more research first to understand why that is distressing. There are some projects for open source CPUs on-going.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've looked into this extensively but see zero actual real world effects other then being a boogyman to hardcore FOSS nerds

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Idk what you're talking about, it's been done plenty of times?

Plus we dont even really know what new "Security" tech their cooking up nowadays. Especially with in-house chips like Apple M chips.

Meltdown Redux: Intel Flaw Lets Hackers Siphon Secrets from Millions of PCs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like the management engine card is sneakily changing the threat model in the middle of the conversation.

Is it bad? Yes. Is it a big source of security holes? Absolutely.

Is it a way that Facebook is going to profile you to try and sell you to advertisers? Or a reason why you can't ditch Windows? No.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What does ditching windows have to do with security chips? OS sits above the hardware so that does not make sense. Any linux distro is just as susceptible as it stands.

No ones worried about social media companies messing with your hardware (not yet). That's off-topic. Besides, legally nothing stops Intel or AMD from just selling the harvested data to Fb or whoever so that point is kind of moot too.

Actually news just broke as I was writing this and guess what. Now there is a bug allowing browser exploitation of the CPU using... Javascript! What a time to be alive..

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/07/encryption-breaking-password-leaking-bug-in-many-amd-cpus-could-take-months-to-fix/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It is an absolute nightmare, but you can gain some privacy back with ublock origin, an adblocking DNS on your phone, Firefox, a VPN, and ditching all things google/meta. As I type this out, I am reminded how much effort it takes to claw back your privacy...yeah OP, I'm with you, the modern internet is a profit-at-all-cost cesspool that can eat a moldy potato!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ditching google is the most difficult part, especially when iPhone is so locked down :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You can put Google-free Android forks on your phone or tablet. My phone is LinageOS with minimal Google footprint and my tablet has no gapps at all.

I use Gmail, Tasks, Drive and Calendar for the sake of convenience, since I could self-host all of these.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I’ve primarily been an iphone user over the years and was recently hand me downed an older pixel. Using grapheneOS and firefox, I was surprised to see there were only about a dozen extensions available, good ones, but not all of them like I’d assumed. Then I discovered chrome on android has zero, is that right? I cannot believe that there are so many people that use a mobile browser without an adblocker. On iOS safari, I have dozens of incredible extensions (basically countless through the app store) that make the internet useable again. I’m happy to see safari opening up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What happened to the ethos of the original internet cultures that were so dominant. It's like large swaths of that generation grew up and sold out to become the oppressors. And the other portion are being crushed by that system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only a small % of people were on the internet then it grew and grew and the new people flocked to new spaces and didn't like the old internet culture because it was quite elitist and toxic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You say elitist as if it was a bad thing. As to toxic, 1990s online communities has no comparison with casual baseline hostility everywhere today that is just off the charts. In fact, Lemmy already has enough of it for me to start disliking commenting. This is what almost drove me offline in the last few years.

I'm not sure still care enough to run my own instance and enforce stricter standards. It's all so much work and ultimatively futile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the end of net neutrality hastened there older internet's demise. now corps are free to monetize as much as they like.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yup. When net neutrality died it let a few corporate overlords rise up and kill off much of the old free web. What much of us grew up on was a much fewer, wilder web. One you could still dream on and where you could still think damned near any new thing could come from anyone. Now, you pretty much have to already have $.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait, what do you mean Net Neutrality died? I thought they lost signing the bill to end it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

When was the last time you accessed a http website (not https)? Basically any schmuck in his basement could cobble one up. Nowadays you have to rent a server from some cloud service which goes against the whole net neutrality concept.

People just stopped bothering when their browser screams at them for accessing an unsafe website. That's where net neutrality died IMO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wait, I don't get this. Https certs are trivial to acquire and keep up-to-date with Let's Encrypt. You can deploy a server like Caddy that will handle most of it for you. I'm a schmuck whose own website is self-hosted and I put an nginx rule to redirect http to https, because I don't think anyone along the path between your computer and my website deserves to eavesdrop on the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I genuinely believe that this is nothing new. Governments have just learned in the last few years that most of their citizenry don't give a shit about privacy. They're just making it official, so it can be penalized if you openly try to do something about it. I think...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I also recently noticed that everything get's more and more hostile towards the user. I observed so many apps and Websites that have hidden some big features behind a paywall recently - as if they don't already make enough money with data collection and selling. First they make you comfortable with these QoL Stuff and then they steal it away, holding it in front of your face and want you to pay for it now, something that was free for years. It's filthy..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I feel like I've explored very deep edges of sound alternatives. I've tried replacing my phone with consumer friendly alternatives and they just weren't as good unless you can get a fair phone in the US which is hit or miss. The Internet itself lending itself to subscription based models is because servers and data storage costs money.

I hate to say it, but even if you remove power through solar investments and using lightweight servers you still have ISP to pay. Everyone's got bills and overhead, because nothing is free.

My advice is to ground your logic in that everything requires resources to run and rejoice in community wins like Lemmy or mastodon or Graphene OS. It's not all bad. Find the good in the bad and move towards what works for you personally. I've been off of windows for like a year now and I think that alone is impressive despite Xbox for example costing an arm and a leg.