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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is the data handled on Lemmy compared to Mastodon?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably the same. This bears repeating: All your information online is and always has been available for others to collect and see, from FBI to advertisers. If you want any amount of protection, it must be with E2E encryption for which you own the keys.

We taught online safety in the 90s. Did we all just collectively forget this in the last two decades?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They stopped teaching about computers. I tutored high schoolers about 10 years ago and they didn't know how to use computers fluently. It moved to the realm of expecting parents to teach to their kids along with taxes and career planning.

Speaking of which, I grew up in the 90s pre Internet, and started using the Internet in middle school. Definitely never got any official Internet safety lessons. Maybe I was a little too early? Idk. But by the time I was 30 schools were not teaching this at least from what I saw

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The other day, I spoke to an 18 year old who didn't know the difference between "copy and paste" and "cut and paste". I want to know what the hell they're doing in IT classes. Do they just assume that kids these days are good at tech because it's so ubiquitous? Because that's a dangerous assumption

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I don't know that they have classes like that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mfs doing stuff like this really need to stop living in america bruh 💀

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait til you hear about extradition

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Of course Slovenia is a part of the extradition club, why should we ever be free from fascism? 😖

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok ... so I think false preconceptions are polluting this topic. Apart from the passwords, nothing serious has happened here for your data. As for the DMs ... yea there aren't DMs with any real privacy on the fediverse, they don't exist ... you should presume DMs are public.

Because the fediverse is not in any way private. See for a good treatment of this: https://blog.bloonface.com/2023/07/04/the-fediverse-is-a-privacy-nightmare/

The basic story is that the fediverse is all about duplicating what we post all over the place ... essentially to anyone who decides to run a server on the fediverse. The FBI could (and probably do?) have a server scooping up all sorts of stuff onto their server and you wouldn't know about and probably couldn't do much about it. Google is scraping mastodon (and probably lemmy?) ... try a google search for mastoodn content.

This is all public internet stuff, you're basically running a public blog that happens to be well connected to lots of other public blogs.

As nice as the fediverse is as a nice anti-capitalist-big-corp monopolisation of our social online lives ... it is very much born out of the web2.0 era and doesn't have any of the privacy concerns many of us would now hope for from technologies.

I've argued this elsewhere ... I like the fediverse and am here out of principle ... but in many ways it highlights some of the failings of our world at this time ... because it's about 10 years too late and the future is coming in hot and fast ... in retrospect I wouldn't be surprised if it will make a lot of sense to look back on the fediverse and think that it was effectively redundant at just about the time it gained popularity. An AI dominated internet with massive privacy concerns is here very soon, and the fediverse isn't ready IMO, it's still trying to catch up to web2.0 big social circa 2010.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know (which isn't too far, because I'm not a Beltway bandit anymore), the Fediverse isn't on the FBI's radar in any meaningful way. It /might/ be on the radar of the information contractors they hire for bulk data gathering and analysis (Palantir, ZeroFox, Dataminr, probably others these days) but none of me have heard anything specific.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

"...but none of me..."

How many of you are there?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fed glowing N. Why am I not surprised. Never fully trust your government

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