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submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Besides Thunderbird, is there any good desktop mail client for Windows that doesn't involve uploading mail to a cloud first?

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

What do you mean by uploading to the cloud first? Any email goes over the internet

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

They mean mail apps that keep a copy of your emails in their servers

[-] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Are you saying that Mozilla keeps copies of your emails on their own servers?

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

There was a Linux client I saw a while ago—Spring Mail or something like that?—which first downloaded your email from your provider onto their own servers, then your local client got them from their server. This additional cloud step is what I want to avoid.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Still no html composing, right? It would be a serious contender for many people if it just had that feature... Even though, from my experience, most personal email doesn't really use html...

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Em client is pretty good. I'm using the pro version and its the what Outlook replacement I have used so far.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

There is also Mailbird (not FOSS, costs money and has some weird NordVPN-like fake sales, but the app seems somewhat competent) and Mailspring (partly open source but afaik not completely, built with a MacOS-esque UI but works for Windows and Linux as well).

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Say "MacOS-esque" three times really fast.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The built-in Mail app is pretty nice, other than that eM Client is good too

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That’s going to be killed off in favor of Outlook in the near future, from what I understand.

If OP is willing to do a bit of extra legwork and somewhat masochistic, then pretty much any Linux-based mail client is fair game with WSL2. The only one I’ve used lately other than Thunderbird is Evolution, but that was just to test a particular distro’s default offering.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

New Outlook is an automatic update to the Windows Mail app, it will look mostly the same.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Then why are you recommending them. This is the FOSS community.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

And that's why I'm explicitly noting that they're not FOSS, doofus. Besides, if you're using Windows anyway, using its built-in email client is not a huge stretch.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I mean, yes. But why would I want my emails also to go through the spyware OS. What you're saying sounds like "you're already using a OS that tracks everything, giving them your emails at this point wouldn't hurt."

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

They could already have access to your emails, because… you’re running their OS. They can slip in any code they want and run it with NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM-level privileges (comparable to root-level privileges on Linux systems).

If you run any other OS you’ll also have to trivially trust the makers of that OS with root-level privileges (or comparable).

(Personally I don’t believe that MS is scanning all your local emails, but they certainly have the technical possibilities to do so very trivially.)

[-] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

They could, but we don't know. Not using their mail app at least makes that a possibility.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is the FOSS community.

Given people are regularly promoting proprietary trash and being upvoted for it, while people taking a pro-FOSS stance are downvoted, I don't think this is a FOSS community in anything but name anymore.

At the very least I'd have hoped we'd left the childish name calling behind at reddit, but it seems you can't really take the reddit out of the redditor.

this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2023
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