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The U.S. solar industry expects to add a record 32 gigawatts (GW) of production capacity this year, up 53% on new capacity in 2022 and helped by investment incentives under the Inflation Reduction Act, a report published on Thursday showed.

32 GW is a lot. The average thermal coal generating station in the US is 1GW and these stations have an average capacity of 50%. That means that this colar prodution capacity enables us to displace 64 coal stations during the daytime if consumption does not grow.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The future of renewable energy is very promising. It's easy to miss how fast it can turn around when growth it grows so much year-to-year but starts at a small place. Keep this kind of growth up and the grid will be clean a lot faster than seems possible.

Beyond solar I'm also very hopeful about offshore wind efforts in the US.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I think geothermal is the next big thing because oil and gas companies don’t just get to invest in it—they already have the knowledge and tools to make it happen. We could actually see them turn from one fuel to another.

Plus, there are power storage solutions that involve drilling into bedrock.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What a game. Thanks for reminding me i should replay this

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're welcome ✌️

Seriously though, if Sony or Sucker Punch released inFamous 1 & 2 on Steam i wouldn't mind selling both my kidneys just to pre-order them. ⚡⚡⚡

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Considering the level of grift in this country, I'll celebrate once it's all actually built and not a second earlier

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What's the total power consumption of the USA? Just want to know how much this makes up.

For those who're more familiar with solar, will there be an issue with solar panel farms taking up land (which may cause environmental issues)? Wonder if there's a balance to be struck there.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So not quite 1% even. Progress is progress, I guess.

What is scary is that barely 1% represents a hella lot of coal plants.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Actually, it looks like renewables have overtaken coal, with the majority of fossil fuel energy being provided by natural gas plants. I'm personally fine with newer LNG plants, since they (1) are actually quite clean, and (2) burn a byproduct that we get from making gasoline.

Source: https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Last i saw the US had just got to the point of having more solar generation than coal, it's a great milestone because in this broken world it means we'll have not solar lobbyists than coal lobbyists

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think you mean Twh not Gwh.. For reference Norway produces about 150 Twh a year

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

His unit was GW, not GWh. Maybe you are talking about the same if you multiply by 365x24.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'm honestly not sure. Their mixed use of billions, trillions, kilo, giga, etc was confusing me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

That's 4200 TWh/year, or 480 GW.

Though that ignores the power consumption that isn't electrical yet, like transportation and heating.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Re: land use, see: agrivoltaics - dual, symbiotic use for solar + agriculture. They work very well together.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Great news. Let's double that next year.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

European here.

Great! Now double that yearly, over the next 5 years and keep us posted on how much that impacted the economy and everything else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Good shit. We're getting to this extremely late, but it's at least good progress.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Sept 7 (Reuters) - The U.S. solar industry expects to add a record 32 gigawatts (GW) of production capacity this year, up 53% on new capacity in 2022 and helped by investment incentives under the Inflation Reduction Act, a report published on Thursday showed.

The report by the Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA) and Wood Mackenzie estimated total operating solar capacity would grow from 153 GW currently to 375 GW by 2028 as supply chain challenges brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic and restrictive trade policies abate.

Increased investment in domestic manufacturing could see U.S. solar module production grow tenfold by 2026 if all new factory plans materialise, Wood Mackenzie said.

"In the year since its passage, the IRA (Inflation Reduction Act) has undoubtedly caused a wave of optimism across the solar industry," said Michelle Davis, head of global solar at Wood Mackenzie.

The Biden administration's 2022 Inflation Reduction Act allocates about $370 billion toward climate change and clean energy efforts, including incentives aimed at promoting solar and wind power.

The utility-scale and residential solar markets led the way with new capacity additions in the second quarter, mainly as customers in California rushed to install solar before changes to net metering rules took effect, the report said.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

eh... consumption will always grow, but probably half of those coal stations will close - presumably the owner/operators will be able to find new sources of income

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Energy consumption per capital was flat from 1970 to 2000, and has decreased from then.

https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/browser/index.php?tbl=T01.07#/?f=M&start=200001

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Crazy to look at that CO2 per capita chart and see that we're lower now than any time since the 40s at least.

About 25% down from 2008.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

And yet, also crazily, consumption as a whole has only gone up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm a layman in the subject but energy consumption tends to be diminishing on all fronts as technology becomes more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

i was thinking more along the lines of data centers/server farms

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Again, just a layman, but had a person in a thread tell me they ran an Opteron for some time and they noticed how warm the house was kept with that machine working.

After being put to rest, replaced by more modern machines, the eletric bill dropped, even when the heating was added in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Was that me?

If so I moved to low power i5s and run super cool and quiet without any loss of functionality or slowdowns. And my energy bill is much more pleasant now! A few generations of CPUs and it's worth just replacing old gear if you can, especially enterprise stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well isn't the world a small place!

Only critique I have is: you should have kept to AMD.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The mid-range at the time for AMD re: motherboard or CPU wasn't spectacular, and I wanted dual Intel GBE on the motherboard, otherwise I totally would have (my actual desktop machine is AMD)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Just messing with you. I'm a self confessed AMD fanboy but I respect some will want to try other hardware or have specific wants or needs.

Nonetheless: AMD is the best!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Opterons were so bad though, and it's still difficult to get an Epyc machine for cheap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The designs for those have really improved too, also a lot of the stuff the internet has made obsolete was very energy intensive so when just looking at the whole picture numbers there can still be a trend down

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

200w capacity in 1 square meter ? rather use windmills instead (especially offshore)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or just put them in places where people can't live easily, like the desert, which is what's being done. Also, we can do both!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

excessive heat makes panel inefficient. they need to be cool to reach maximum efficiency (at 26°c) .. might as well install them offshore..but still, remote place is best place

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Good point!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

solar actually gets a greater power density. most wind projects in the US get about 2.5 MW/km^2

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

That's almost 26 and a half time machines!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

That is pretty insane. Other countries might want to ramp up before they get priced out... There's not enough materials to go 'round.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

is this basically doubling the generation from 2022? looking at wiki i see 146 TWh for solar 2022, 32 GW * 8765h = ~280TWh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't think so, this piece says US has ~150 GW installed. Im not sure if that includes the 32GW or not.