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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You think that's enough? Or do we still need to give them more money?

(Let's take note that the citizens are still poor, and Ukraine is still losing, reportedly still being outgunned as well)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Idk where you got this from, but Ukraine won in Kyiv, Kherson and Kharkiv. Currently the front moves very slowly towards Russia. No, the offensive isn‘t a huge success and I would even consider it a failure, but the fact that Ukraine can even start an offensive is proving that the weapon deliveries are working.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But you still have to pay back your student loans and pay a small fortune for healthcare because fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Two have basically nothing to do with each other.

We are still the richest nation in the world. 2.3 billion sounds like a lot, but its nothing to the us gov, it's nothing to the defense budget alone, and it is actively wrecking the military capabilities of one of our top geopolitical rivals.

I'm not going to pretend to understand the intricacies of the Russia/Ukraine situation, but I know this is peanuts compared to what it could cost us, and we don't even have boots on the ground. This is the deal of a century.

Be mad at the corrupt piece of shit republicans forcing you to go into crippling debt for healthcare and education, not the innocent Ukrainians fighting for their lives and democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

American pays mores per capita for healthcare than most countries with a single payer system.

You'd actually save money if you changed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get your point, but I’m not sure if that’s true. Americans in general are very unhealthy. I think that might explain why it’s more expensive at least somewhat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you not see the chicken-or-egg situation here? They're more unhealthy because of bad healthcare. That (bad) healthcare is more expensive because they're more unhealthy.

Moreover, much of the reason the healthcare is so expensive is because of insurance overhead, for-profit middlemen (including hospitals, private equity owning doctors offices, etc), massive prescription medication markups because people can't go without medication, and other inefficiencies in the system. Even with an unhealthy population, it doesn't need to be nearly as expensive as it is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see it. It makes sense. I just don’t know if it’d initially be cheaper. I still think it’s the right thing to do, but it might take a generation for the savings to start happening.

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