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“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why does the United States get absolutely any say in a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia, there meddling stopped the last peace deals, and this is really none of their buisness. Let Ukraine set there terms and negotiate for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

While I am at it, The PRC has been trying for months to broker peace and has Russia at the table, why doesn't the US let Ukraine go to the table and negotiate, The United States has no right to be king of the world and has no right to be setting any terms for these talks.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hard agree with Blinken here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

honestly, i can't see how any reasonable person wouldn't.

edit: russia has proven, repeatedly, that they don't honor their agreements. the only way that they won't invade again is if they're kicked out and if Ukraine has a modern military fully capable of kicking russia's ass if it tries again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Imperialism is bad even when it's not the USA doing it.

Ukraine absolutely deserves our support in this war.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bunch of people keep talking about how the US shouldn't broker peace deals and China should. Hypocrisy at its finest.

The fact is, having a third party nation recommendation for peace or no peace is a standard for centuries, and if that nation is a global hegemony with nuclear weapons, then it makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do I understand it correctly, that "total withdrawal" is giving back the regions that agreed to be with Russia, alongside getting the troops back?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (14 children)

You mean that separatist regions that got installed by Russia and would already have lost without the Russian troops intervention in 2014 - 2015? That regions that have a government of brutal former criminals (that brutally oppressed every opposition)? Yes those too. If the people really want to be part of Russia, they can ask for a fair referendum with international observers after Russia fucked off.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Supporting Ukraine is the only U.S. military action since WW2 that I can truly support. Even our action in response to 9/11 was fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has been a major reality check for me personally. For years I shook my head at the gargantuan US military budget thinking it's ridiculous. Fast forward to February 2022 and I realize it's the US once again cleaning up when Europe shits the bed. Ashamed, thankful and thoroughly convinced we need to spend a whole lot more in defense as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk about all that. The US has supported Ukraine and I support that. But Europe has stepped up to the plate too. While US refused to provide long range HIMARS, UK provided Storm Shadow. Poland has donated about all it has. Realistically, the US could drastically reduce it's defense spending, provide all the support Ukraine could want, and still maintain the largest military force by a large margin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well that's what I'm saying. European countries are giving all they've got to give while the US hardly breaks a sweat, yet the US provides a disproportionately large amount compared to the rest. Europe would be in a lot more trouble without the US, once again.

And I agree the UK deserves a lot of credit for pushing the envelope with tanks and long range and being the security provider for Sweden and Finland during the application process.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we mostly agree. I just disagree with your claim that the US should spend more on Defense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't say the US should spend more, but Europe. Speaking as a European. E: trying to see if editing helps this federate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same, its one of the only decisions the US has made that is pretty solidly good.

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