Added context: the removed comment is from a hexbear, which I find even more ironic, because it was one of the more level-headed ones :)
Gsus4
joined 11 months ago
One of the advantages of lemmy is the transparent modlog, where I see a) lots of thankless work mods perform I assume for free b) 99.99% bullshit that is not constructive in a public forum. I'm adjusting my expectations about the false positive removal rate considering how much useless comments get through.
yep, your slavery increases somebody else's freedom from work, but they are not the same thing, that "is" is doing some heavy lifting there.
The point by George Orwell is that when you accept propaganda soundbites unthinkingly, you become somebody's tool.
That's just a modern abusive interpretation of the Koran in some societies anyway. E.g. https://www.abdullahyahya.com/2019/09/proof-muslim-women-dont-have-to-cover-their-hair/
Of course once your family has inculcated in you that body privacy is a duty, you may begin to see it as your right in France where institutions are secular, which creates these integration problems.
If there is a pair of kids in a school who doesn't want to wear what their parents force on them, to me that is still worth protecting at the expense of Muslim conservative students' right to wear a traditional dress.
After looking at what an abaya is and understanding some of the overt and covert reasons for doing this and the reaction, the cool solution would be if abayas (they're really just a loose dress) started to be marketed at everyone, so that anyone could wear them and end this stupid debacle. What do people wear in the west if they don't want people to look at their "curves" anyway? Huge market gap, right there. Or maybe instead of abayas they'll start wearing long trench coats to school, lol.
PS: meanwhile, in SA: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-women-socialmedia-idUSKCN1NL2A1
What does modestly mean to you?
Yesss, solar thermal for the win wherever you need hot water in sunny areas!
"Religion is the opium of the people." (Karl Marx, you might have heard of him)
That's because every liberty is somebody else's constraint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_France
The French concept of religious freedom did not grow out of an existing pluralism of religions but has its roots in a history with Roman Catholicism as the single official religion and including centuries of persecution of people not endorsing it, or straying from the most official line, from the Cathars to the Huguenots and the Jansenists – this lasted until the French Revolution.
French insistence on the lack of religion in all things public (laïcité or secularism) is a notable feature in the French ideal of citizenship. This concept of secularism, also plays a role in ongoing discussions about the wearing of scarves by Muslim women in public schools. In 2004, the French Parliament passed a law prohibiting the wearing of ostentatious religious garb in public primary and secondary schools; motivations included the tradition of keeping religious and political debates and proselytism out of such schools, as well as the preservation of the freedom of Muslim female students forced to wear certain costumes out of peer pressure.
I think you're underestimating how aggressive french laicity originally had to be to extract a church that was entrenched deep within government and culture and felt entitled to exert more ultraconservative political influence than it is today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_French_law_on_the_Separation_of_the_Churches_and_the_State
In 1886, another law ensured secularisation of the teaching staff of the National Education.[10][11]
Other moves towards secularism included:
the introduction of divorce and a requirement that civil marriages be performed in a civil ceremony[12]
legalizing work on Sundays[13][14]
making seminarians subject to conscription[14][15]
secularising schools and hospitals[8][12]
abolishing the law ordaining public prayers at the beginning of each parliamentary session and of the assizes[14][16]
ordering soldiers not to frequent Catholic clubs[17]
removing the religious character from the judicial oath and religious symbols from courtrooms[18]
forbidding the participation of the armed forces in religious processions[14]
It was the [email protected] but I'm not sure where it is because lemmy.ml does not seem to exist.