They may not have done the biggest atrocities that were rumored, but they still purposefully kidnapped civilians, which I'm pretty sure is a war crime.
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They have to maintain some veneer of legitimacy for international audience as well. They're not going to nuke Gaza lol. Other than that, they're going at a pretty damn good click, though. They got down to only one major city left and Northern Gaza is completely uninhabitable.
That part is true. It is usually extremely difficult to prove. It's why the case on whether it's genocide can take years. And why people saying the ICC hasn't said its 100% genocide yet aren't arguing in good faith. They said it's plausible, which is already huge. Anything more wasn't realistic, as it will take them most likely literal years to finish the case out, but we can call it as we see it before then.
In this case, it's still okay for everyone else to say it because we don't have to prove it legally, and it's pretty obvious to the eye and ear with the mountain of evidence given by South Africa. Luckily, Israeli government officials and soldiers have said openly many statements basically proving that they want to do a genocide. They've called Palestinians animals, compared Gaza to Amalek, said they need to erase the Gaza strip from the earth, said there are no involved civilians, been encouraging another ethnic cleansing through emigration as well ("If there are 100,000 or 200,000 Arabs in Gaza and not 2 million Arabs, the entire discussion on the day after will be totally different."), etc. Those quotes and statements have always helped me feel more comfortable calling it what it is.
Ah. Well that sucks =(
I thought the EU has been pretty good on privacy so far. Of course the US is trying to duck it up.
I wonder why water indicates nerves and coffee indicates confidence. It totally makes sense to me but I have no idea why.
There's apparently a answer to this I've been told by physicists, but I've never quite understood it lol.
That's fair. The last paragraph I should have attributed to the Zionist thought instead of that commenter in particular. I mostly just wanted to demonstrate how the "They want to do an October 7th over and over again!" scare tactic leads to the genocidal thoughts and actions we see happening now. I was commenting while emotional, I'll edit it so it's not so harsh and personally aggressive.
Hamas is a response to Israeli violence and colonialism for the last 70 years. You can depose them but another group will rise up with arms to resist colonialism as long as Israel keeps doing the same thing. And they did before Hamas, so of course they will after. Plus, it will be even harder as these events drive recruitment for Hamas. America didn't get rid of the Taliban by bombing Afghanistan for 20 years, either. It doesn't work.
Israel has been occupying Gaza the whole time despite their rhetoric. They control all their infrastructure and built a big wall to keep them in, and control all travel in and out, plus they constantly spied on them with everything from drones to listening devices to taking random hostages and trying to get info out of them. Gaza doesn't have control of their own food, power, trash, travel, water, sea territory, money, etc. That's basically an occupation, no matter what they say. The only reason to need to take it a step farther and put troops on the inside instead of all along the wall outside is so they can kill more Palestinians.
The scare tactics of claiming they'll never be safe is how you get a genocide, both now and in the past. It's that thought in WW2 that leads to rhetoric like, "We tried to let them live in peace with these stars and putting them in their own spaces in towns, but they keep causing trouble. They even want to do a Warsaw Ghetto Uprising over and over again. We're going to need to kill all the Jews, it's just the only solution."
Ooh will the link be broken half the time for extra Stack Overflow experience?
Hope you're right!
Seriously, we already left Saudi Arabia get away with chopping up a journalist for a US publication for that reason. And have a base in Iraq. And ostensibly Pakistan is our ally. And Turkey is in NATO. How many allies do we need in that area? And why do they all have to be terrible?