SleezyDizasta

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Please remember that this particular groyper meme is a literal copy of a Trump 2016 meme with the word “Trump” replaced with “Biden” and was deployed regularly by the alt-right

So what? You have to stop doubling down on this idiotic argument because it is getting ridiculous. Guilt by association and purity are heavily frowned upon and criticized throughout history for a reason. Different things have different meanings in different contexts, and you can't judge people without proper contexts and for things they're not or didn't do. This should be obvious, but for some reason it isn't.

This meme and others like it all originate from 4chan and the other imageboards similar to it, and these boards are responsible for internet's most famous memes. Just think about what has come out of 4chan for a second:

  • Wojak and its variations

  • Pepe and its variations

  • LOLcats

  • Pedobear

  • Anonymous

  • Rickrolling

  • The popularization of Chocolate Rain

  • Greentext

  • Rage comics

  • The ungodly origin of "Bronies"

  • The Shia Labeouf fiasco

  • The 4chan-Tumblr wars

  • Pool's closed

They are quite literally the foundation of internet culture. Everybody who grew up on the internet was used or at least enjoyed any of these. These imageboards are built on the idea that the internet is the wild west, where everybody no matter how tame or extreme, no matter how good or evil, and no matter how pragmatic or delusional can get together and shitpost. And guess what? 4chan and these other imageboards were ALWAYS cesspools filled pedos, Marxists, neo nazis, anarchists, racial supremacists, misogynists/misandrists, and so on, but at the same time, they're also filled with a lot of normal people. Regardless, if we follow your logic, which is that anybody who has ever used any of these memes is a neo nazi by proxy then anybody who took part in mainstream Internet culture over the past 20 years is a neo nazi... which is obviously ridiculous.

Keep in mind, you're right the groyper meme did originate from neo nazis but so did many other famous memes. I mean the latest famous variation of wojak, the chud, originated from some Marxist imageboard. Marxists are just as vile as neo nazis, does that mean anybody who used the chudjak meme is a Marxist? No, that's stupid. The meme was started by Marxists, but it was used by a lot of other people, including those making fun of Marxists.

The point that I'm trying to make here is that memes serve as templates. Templates without content don't mean anything, they're just a structured blank document. Just like how symbols have different meanings in different contexts, so do these memes. If OP posted this same meme saying something like "Putin is still a great leader" then OP would be a fascist... but he's not. His meme is about Biden.

Like seriously, do you honestly believe that OP is some secret neo nazi because he used a cartoon frog meme to make a pro Biden post? Even worse, do you seriously think that I'm also a secret neo nazi by proxy for pointing out that symbols and templates mean different things in different contexts? This is where you start crossing the line from a valid critic into a paranoid schizo or McCarthyist virute signaler.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I'm not irritated, I'm just confused because your original comment didn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It means I found humor in your reply as the acronym clearly implies.

If you think an acronym like lol or lmao is an insult or an act of intimidation then you need to touch grass

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Your original comment is incoherent

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I don't care, my point still stands. Your hatred of America or love for Canada is irrelevant, and so are your assumptions as to why people are moving (even they literally give you the reasons in the article). The fact remains that emigration from Canada to the US is at a 10 year high, is far above the historical average, and is increasing.

In the same year (2022), only 10k Americans immigrated to Canada. This is only 8% of the number of Canadians who emigrated to the US (126k), despite the US having 8.5x as many people.

Source: https://cis.org/North/Canada-Takes-Proportionately-Four-Times-Many-Legal-Immigrants-US

There's clearly a very strong disconnect between what you're trying to insinuate and what's actually happening.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I'm not arguing for or against, I'm just pointing out the fact that emigration trend from Canada to the US is happening and it is at a 10 year high. I merely pointed out the reasons cited in the article as I clearly stated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

But it is. A symbol can mean different things in different context. For example, this hand gesture 👌 means okay in Western cultures but means something more insulting and offensive in Arab culture. Does that mean one is right and is the one and only representation of the gesture? Of course not. Same here. Swastikas have been around for thousands of years across many different cultures and has many different meanings. It's just one variation of the symbol that ended up being used by the nazis and is offensive to most people. It's silly and rather close minded to try to disregard all these disregard all these different context and meanings when many of them have been around for longer than the nazi variation. The principle applies here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (10 children)

"everything I don't like is propaganda" - Typical Lemmy user

No, what I said is true. You're Canadian, how do you not know this?

Source: CBC

Tens of thousands of Canadians are emigrating from Canada to the United States and the number of people packing up and moving south has hit a level not seen in 10 years or more, according to data compiled by CBC News.

There's nothing new about Canadians moving south of the 49th parallel for love, work or warmer weather, but the latest figures from the American Community Survey (ACS) suggest it's now happening at a much higher rate than the historical average.

http://cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10-year-high-1.7218479

Actual reasons cited in the article: Lower taxes, higher wages, affordable housing, dislike of Trudeau's politics, cheaper groceries, increasing crime rates, increasingly disappointing healthcare system, and warm weather

Whether you agree or disagree with these reasons is irrelevant. The point is that trend is there and it's accelerating. So to your tongue in cheek point about Americans mass migrating north, that likely won't happen because the opposite trend is occurring as we speak.

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