lvxferre

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Worth noting that plenty types of roe are edible, not just the ones that can become caviar-like. Some are really good when breaded and deep-fried, although they spill a lot while frying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

As I said in the other reply, you got to choose between the serious and memes-friendly reply. You had ~3h to do so, and you're showing activity, so you picked neither = both.

c/memes friendly answer: Serial killer? Come on, I don't put ketchup on pizza, sauce on ribs or hard cheese on seafood!


Serious answer. Spoilers for the sake of other users.

First off. I will cut you some slack, but keep in mind that "serial killer" is generally understood as "one who periodically kills humans", so what you're doing is libel. Others might not cut you the same slack, so get a bit more insightful with your insults.

Secondly. I also understand that "I shouldn't soapbox in a meme comm" is a bit too complex of an idea for nationalists, vegans, racists, and Christian zealots. And given that you belong to at least one of those groups, this should be really hard for you, o poor thing.

Final and more importantly:

You wouldn't call a jaguar piercing the necks of capybaras "serial killing", even if they periodically do so. Or orcas hunting seals, even if they can get really "playful" (cruel) towards their prey, also periodically. Or chickens eating bugs alive, so they die either crushed or dissolved in hydrochloric acid, even if they don't need it to survive. Or chimps hunting termites and teaching their children how to do so, even if there's a cultural factor in this.

And yet you refer to a human being killing a member of another species [ipsis ungulis] "serial killer" Why, even if by the above we know that you don't give a fuck about periodicity, cruelty, necessity, or culture? Why?

Because you want to pretend that you're part of a very, very special snowflake species, "holier and above all those filthy irrationals", above them. As if you were better, more moral, more deserving of The Kingdom of God than those "poor things".

Cut off the bullshit. You and me are catarrhines with a weird hair pattern. We are animals; acknowledge you as such, instead of wallowing in wishful belief. The morality behind our acts is the same as the morality of the same acts of other species. If eating flesh is immoral for us, so is for both other omnivorous species and the carnivorous ones. You can claim that eating flesh is moral, or immoral, but you need to do it for both sides.

If you claim that it's immoral, go grab your shotgun and kill every fucking jaguar, orca, chimp, and chicken out there. (Except battery farm chickens, those cause less death of precious animals than you'd like to admit.) Or even better, go ramble at the jaguar, he'll totally listen to you and stop eating capybaras. (He'll probably eat something dumber than a capybara then. You.)

If you claim that it's moral, I rest my case.

You're also putting animal lifes in a weird altar over the lives of everything else. Every fucking living thing thrives off the death of something else; even plants, bacteria and funghi. Why is this weird altar even there? Because you're an animal and put your own group over the others, in detriment of those.

I'll pre-emptively rebuke some really stupid counter-arguments that you perhaps might utter:

  • Any reasoning trying to pretend that humans are "speshul", such as intelligence - refer the paragraph starting with "Cut off".
  • "Dis is appoeal to narurr! [nature]" - nope. I'm highlighting that your standards are arbitrary and, if consistently applied, would go completely against what you probably claim to defend ("poor crirrurrs" [critters])
  • Something about tone - deal with it. You brought this to yourself.
  • "haha didn't read lmao XD lol" - can't have your precious, oh precious feelings ( = garbage) being broken, right?
  • "B-but the environment!" - the issue with continued sustainability of Earth to keep human life is not the fact that we eat meat. It's the 1% hoarding resources and making sure that we exploit the shit out of the environment so they can count coins.
  • "this dunt maek sense i dun unrurrstand" - it does make sense even if you pretend that it doesn't.

Get off your high horse.

Note for other vegans that might be reading this, before some assumer starts whining and becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: I'm not chewing on this moron because it's a vegan, but because it showed itself consistently dumb across the thread.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a godsend for a lot of things, from Bolognese sauce to "fuck I'm in a hurry perhaps I can adapt this recipe to the pressure cooker". And some things get actually better in the pressure cooker, not just faster; homemade veg stock is a good example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I live in the southern parts of Brazil. Salmon itself isn't cheap here, as it's imported from Chile, and AFAIK local fish is not suitable for caviar. (I was travelling to Argentina through Paraguay. Weird route due to booze and smuggling. The caviar was something that she bought on a whim alongside the whisky.)

Also, note that with the equivalent of US$7~8 you can buy a whole kilogram of good quality beef here. So two tablespoons of something for the same price is still, well, expensive as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Like, the possibility of eating cats, or keeping a pet cow? Yes, and it would be consistent with the above.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Make some shallow cuts on the ribs, so the salt penetrates better on them. Add a generous amount of [important!]coarse[/important] salt, making sure that some crystals go inside the cuts. Wait half hour or so.

Light a charcoal fire, and barbecue the ribs for a hour with the bony side down. [important!]Low fire.[/important] The bones should start detaching themselves from the meat, then you know that it's time to flip it; cook it with the fattier side down for a few more hours.

Use your judgment if you need to flip it again or not. Some people only flip it once, some do it multiple times. This should take 4~6h so wake up early if you want it to be ready for lunch.


In the pressure cooker:

  • a bit of veg oil
  • an onion, peeled, sliced
  • 1kg ribs, cut into large chunks
  • salt and pepper to taste

Put the veg oil, onion, ribs, salt and pepper in the pressure cooker, in this order. No need for water (the onions release quite a bit of water). Close it, let it cook on pressure for 40min.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can give you a serious answer or one suitable for a memes community. Which one shall you pick? [EDIT: picking neither will yield you both.]

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

My point was mostly to highlight that pet vs. livestock for me depends on raising conditions, not on species.

That said you're correct that raising dogs as a main source of meat wouldn't be efficient or practical, unlike pig, horse, cow, rabbit, guinea pigs etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Salmon roes, or "fake caviar". There's a whole story about that, involving going to country A to neighbouring country B through country C just to smuggle stuff, while the driver (my then girlfriend) was drunk as a skunk.

It tastes fishy, a bit salty, but I liked it. It pops on your mouth. I'd rather eat deep-fried roes though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Dunno about other people, but in my case:

  • I don't consider killing a dog for eating as intrinsically abusive.
  • I never ate dogs, but I'd probably try it as long as raised and butchered as livestock. On the other hand I'd never touch someone's pet potbelly pig.
  • I'm drinking and you made me crave salami.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It's actually the family version of it. Can't show the cow butt, think on the children!

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