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Not sure what others are doing to use Ubuntu (23.04) without snaps, but this is what I am doing:

  • for Firefox I found a guide here
  • for chromium I am actually using the Linux Mint packages (which work absolutely fine), and I have just set up a small repository I can add to apt:
deb [arch=amd64 allow-insecure=yes] http://snapless.cmeerw.net victoria upstream
  • this just syncs from Linux Mint and only republishes chromium in the Packages file (with downloads redirected to a Linux Mint mirror). BTW, I am not signing these...

What are others doing?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This.

I just went from Arch to Debian 12 Bookworm. Running the stable branch, but so far most of the packages are rather recent. Kernel is 6.1 instead of 6.4, but I could switch to the Testing or Unstable branch to get the "bleeding edge" packages/kernels if I need to. But honestly so far it's been a real pleasure to use. Everything is just working and is stable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I switched from Arch to Debian Stable as well. I grabbed the Xanmod kernel repo for a more recent kernel, and use Flatpaks and Homebrew for some cutting edge stuff. I don't miss anything from Arch so far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

don't miss anything from Arch so far.

same I switched to debian testing. best experience. never had issues since a year. Arch usually borked once in this period.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Debian 12 was just released. Compare it to Arch even six months from now and see how current the packages are. Then compare it again in 18 months.

I am a happy Arch user but I must admit the constant kernel updates can seem a bit much. An experiment I have considered is moving to Debian 12 and using distrobox to get access to Arch repos and the AUR. I would use the Debian stuff as much as possible but for anything missing or anything that I really need to be more current, I could just fall back to the Arch repos.

It could be the best of both worlds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's exactly what I just set up.

I went in thinking as long as dockerband virtual machines work I'm good. They both worked no problems, set up distrobox, tried pamac which opened but installing packages through it was fucky. Yay works great though.

The only thing I'm not sure about is running a VPN through distrobox, but that's next on the list. I can always switch vpns to a Debian friendly one if it has problems.