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ew. heathen
although if you like gnome, why are you on cinnamon?
probably not much on gnome/cinnamon, although i don't know. it might work if you install the qt file picker package (maybe) but i don't know what that is
on kde it forces gtk apps to use the qt file picker, so you don't have to deal with the useless gtk one
i'm presuming you know what i mean by qt and gtk. if you don't just tell me
okay i've never used ubuntu cinnamon, so most of this is conjecture:
if you're on ubuntu lts and already have everything set up, not much. mint is just ubuntu[^lmde fans don't @ me] with all the generally accepted as good fixes on the top (no snap, an easy driver manager, etc). they also add their own repos, a software manager, and some other software that's [objectively] better than the gnome/ubuntu default offerings[^they also used to have a much better de, but not anymore]. i don't ever see any point in using ubuntu cinnamon unless you want the non-lts versions; but if you're already set up you won't get that much out of switching
I mean, isn't cinnamon just a better version of gnome 2?
I generally understand it as the frontends for the applications, no?
I was running Mint on a VM last night and it really just felt like what I am already using so I'm 100% inclined to agree.
@mihnt @Zeus I loved gnome until the whole Apple-like attitude toward theming.
honestly i feel like that's their attitude toward everything? maybe i missed the glory days of gnome, but now i see it as only useful if you're A) a gnome developer, or B) have exactly the same workflow as a gnome developer. otherwise it's useless unless you want a bunch of extensions that break every update
@Zeus I have no clue what their intention is. Is it to become Apple with their refusal to let people theme their operating system.
i imagine it's just that fewer options = easier to maintain. to my knowledge they were never keen on options: gtk was never officially themeable, their gtk theme is called "the only one", they hide all their options on dconf like the windows registry, etc.
generally treat their users like children. but to be fair, it worked for apple and it's sort of working for them, so what do i know?
@Zeus and we do have options. Plasma is my go to, though I do have a Vanilla OS machine running Gnome with several extensions. It’s pretty good except for the window position thing. That’s my biggest gripe. That and the file manager being single pane, though that seems to be a computing industry standard at this point. So I install Nemo.
plasma is definitely my favourite. i'm a great kde fan, i think all of their suite is much better than the gnome offering. particularly dolphin
i'm not sure single-pane is industry standard though - all 3rd party file managers on windows support dual pane to my knowledge, and every one i can think of for linux apart from nautilus.^[possibly even finder? not sure though] nemo's pretty good though. i do quite like cinnamon all round, i think it beats gnome in every way (apart from wayland support)
@Zeus finder is single pane. I just don’t get how they think that’s better. 😕
ah fair enough, i misremembered. i don't think i've ever used a mac system for more than 10 minutes whilst giving friends tech support
i know, it's crap. i guess at least on mac most of the users aren't even capable of pressing f3 to open split view (not only because macs no longer have an f3); but i don't see why nautilus has gone down that route. it seems like such an oversight. especially as it used to exist and they removed it
@Zeus I use pathfinder for a finder replacement. Two panes. But ever since they went subscription I have been looking for alternatives. I hate subscriptions almost as much as I hate single pane.
yeah i'm with you there. i understand why programmes do it, a one-off purchase often isn't enough to support continued development and server costs, but i have never bought one in my life. i actually had bought pocketcasts pro, and then they went subscription only and i immediately moved to antennapod.
topically, sync for lemmy has just released and everyone's going wild over it. it's a £16/year subscription. or £2/month…