the qt one is much better. on kde i can use a portal to make gtk apps use it; i don't know if there's a way to do that on cinnamon, but it may be worth looking into
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
1 points (100.0% liked)
Linux
45479 readers
1273 users here now
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).
Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.
Rules
- Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.
- No misinformation
- No NSFW content
- No hate speech, bigotry, etc
Related Communities
Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
Oh, I'm only on cinnamon atm because I was having issues with my mounted SSDs not working in steam and valve wouldn't help unless I was on ubuntu. So here I am.
Are there distros that come without this shit by default?
If I can get a damn virtual machine to install properly I'm going distro hunting. ElementaryOS has been my favorite so far.
Oh, I’m only on cinnamon atm because I was having issues with my mounted SSDs not working in steam and valve wouldn’t help unless I was on ubuntu. So here I am.
if you have to use ubuntu but want kde, kubuntu is very good (in my personal opinion, don't use neon).
Are there distros that come without this shit by default?
not to my knowledge, although it's a one-line fix (export GTK_USE_PORTAL=1)
If I can get a damn virtual machine to install properly I’m going distro hunting. ElementaryOS has been my favorite so far.
good luck. i tried that and couldn't find anything i liked..
if you have to use ubuntu but want kde, kubuntu is very good (in my personal opinion, don’t use neon).
Oh, I'm a gnome stan through and through.
not to my knowledge, although it’s a one-line fix (export GTK_USE_PORTAL=1)
What does this command do exactly?
good luck. i tried that and couldn’t find anything i liked…
Yeah, it's a fight here choosing. I want simple, easy to use stuff as I don't care so much for bleeding edge stuff anymore. I just want it to work. Mint seems to be the answer to this, but what difference is there really between Mint and Ubuntu Cinnamon? Especially since I took the time to learn cinnamon on here that I have it setup all nice and where I like everything, would it be worth my time to switch?
Oh, I'm a gnome slut through and through.
ew. heathen
although if you like gnome, why are you on cinnamon?
What does this command do exactly?
probably not much on gnome/cinnamon, although i don't know. it might work if you install the qt file picker package (maybe) but i don't know what that is
on kde it forces gtk apps to use the qt file picker, so you don't have to deal with the useless gtk one
i'm presuming you know what i mean by qt and gtk. if you don't just tell me
but what difference is there really between Mint and Ubuntu Cinnamon? Especially since I took the time to learn cinnamon on here that I have it setup all nice and where I like everything, would it be worth my time to switch?
okay i've never used ubuntu cinnamon, so most of this is conjecture:
if you're on ubuntu lts and already have everything set up, not much. mint is just ubuntu[^lmde fans don't @ me] with all the generally accepted as good fixes on the top (no snap, an easy driver manager, etc). they also add their own repos, a software manager, and some other software that's [objectively] better than the gnome/ubuntu default offerings[^they also used to have a much better de, but not anymore]. i don't ever see any point in using ubuntu cinnamon unless you want the non-lts versions; but if you're already set up you won't get that much out of switching
although if you like gnome, why are you on cinnamon
I mean, isn't cinnamon just a better version of gnome 2?
i’m presuming you know what i mean by qt and gtk. if you don’t just tell me
I generally understand it as the frontends for the applications, no?
but if you’re already set up you won’t get that much out of switching
I was running Mint on a VM last night and it really just felt like what I am already using so I'm 100% inclined to agree.
honestly i feel like that's their attitude toward everything? maybe i missed the glory days of gnome, but now i see it as only useful if you're A) a gnome developer, or B) have exactly the same workflow as a gnome developer. otherwise it's useless unless you want a bunch of extensions that break every update
@Zeus I have no clue what their intention is. Is it to become Apple with their refusal to let people theme their operating system.
i imagine it's just that fewer options = easier to maintain. to my knowledge they were never keen on options: gtk was never officially themeable, their gtk theme is called "the only one", they hide all their options on dconf like the windows registry, etc.
generally treat their users like children. but to be fair, it worked for apple and it's sort of working for them, so what do i know?
@Zeus and we do have options. Plasma is my go to, though I do have a Vanilla OS machine running Gnome with several extensions. It’s pretty good except for the window position thing. That’s my biggest gripe. That and the file manager being single pane, though that seems to be a computing industry standard at this point. So I install Nemo.
plasma is definitely my favourite. i'm a great kde fan, i think all of their suite is much better than the gnome offering. particularly dolphin
i'm not sure single-pane is industry standard though - all 3rd party file managers on windows support dual pane to my knowledge, and every one i can think of for linux apart from nautilus.^[possibly even finder? not sure though] nemo's pretty good though. i do quite like cinnamon all round, i think it beats gnome in every way (apart from wayland support)
@Zeus finder is single pane. I just don’t get how they think that’s better. 😕
@Zeus finder is single pane.
ah fair enough, i misremembered. i don't think i've ever used a mac system for more than 10 minutes whilst giving friends tech support
I just don’t get how they think that’s better. 😕
i know, it's crap. i guess at least on mac most of the users aren't even capable of pressing f3 to open split view (not only because macs no longer have an f3); but i don't see why nautilus has gone down that route. it seems like such an oversight. especially as it used to exist and they removed it
@Zeus I use pathfinder for a finder replacement. Two panes. But ever since they went subscription I have been looking for alternatives. I hate subscriptions almost as much as I hate single pane.
yeah i'm with you there. i understand why programmes do it, a one-off purchase often isn't enough to support continued development and server costs, but i have never bought one in my life. i actually had bought pocketcasts pro, and then they went subscription only and i immediately moved to antennapod.
topically, sync for lemmy has just released and everyone's going wild over it. it's a £16/year subscription. or £2/month…
I'm sorry but the file picker has been this way since fucking 2004. I was one then, just look how time flies huh. I'm sorry but this issue goes back almost 2 decades of complaining. Seriously.
BUT! The impossible seems to finally have been done! For applications using GTK4 that is, and I think the application you are using might be GTK3. So sorry, unless it updates the toolkit you won't have a grid view.
In that dialog, you can drag/drop a file from your actual file manager (nautilus, Nemo, etc). This, imo, is the best way to add files to anything asking.
It isn't actually a file manager. It is called a "file picker" and has been a reason to rant as long as I can remember, so close to a decade.
Ah, I assumed it was just part of the file manager like on Windows. Either way, I hate it.
I know this doesn't help but I think the file picker is by far the worst feature Linux has ever had. And our opinions are quite common among Linux users.
This is what I don't get here.
Logically, I think, I can click visit file and it'll show me a preview there, right? Nope.
Which again, logically, I'd want to click "Open With File Manager" but it's fucking greyed out. (I have no idea why it's greyed or if there is a way to fix it.) If that wasn't greyed out I'd be just fine, but there it is. So I have to either copy location or just navigate there myself.
view more: next ›