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It's kind of funny seeing these kind of comments on Lemmy and playing the "alt-right or tankie" game before you see someones instance.
What we as the west get from helping Ukriane, is soft power in that it sends a message to other dictators around the world that we won't just sit back and let them plough into another country, and while we might not start WW3 over it, we will support them to make it hard as possible for you.
huh, i see comments like yours and i think "lib moron" and then i don't give it another thought.
Maybe you should stop plowing into other countries yourselves, you bloodthirsty psychos.
The UK hasn't invaded anywhere in almost two decades, what are you waffling about.
Yeah, invasions are out of fashion. All the West does is make a country's development contingent on their willingness to let the West exploit their natural resources and labor and then cut said development if they fund a social program or coup them if the "locals" are uncooperative. All after gutting these countries for hundreds of years via colonialism. You don't need to do an invasion when you can just put a noose around the neck of a country.
Oh and the West still does invasions look at Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. And UK special forces have been in Syria, the Sudan, Nigeria, and others as recently as last year.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/23/uk-special-forces-have-operated-secretly-in-19-countries-since-2011
How dare you call me a murderer? I haven't killed anyone in almost two years!
Except that in this case they are saying that while killing someone.
AKSHULLY right now I'm just repeatedly stabbing a man. We can't know for certain if he's actually dead until I'm done.
Average neoliberal Pirate. Your bloodthirsty country should return all the gold and art that was stolen from all around the world.
PD: Read about neocolonialism.
Nah, I'm good cheers.
Tell that to Yemen.
Also 'we haven't invaded anywhere in the very immediate past (though the genocidal war criminals who perpetrated our last invasion are still important and celebrated public figures)' is a pretty fucking weak justification from a country insisting on being world police.
Absolute brain worms claiming this as a talking point
Have you heard of scotland/wales/northern ireland?
We were literally in Libya bombing civilians and training al quaeda cells just 12 years ago
They were in Afghanistan until 2014
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/war-afghanistan
No the message to other dictators is ‘be useful to us, or else’
yeah exactly
This would be a great emoji
Probably a two part emoji or it's too small.
https://hexbear.net/post/310898
What message is America sending to the dictators that we bankroll while they perform genocide using US equipment and training?
Those are the other dictators. There's also our dictators - those are the good ones!
Do you think the west has a genuine interest in consistently enforcing this or do you just not care when people you like do it?
Only white countries though, when it comes to black people and brown people you don't give a rats ass, there's still dictators all over the world that none of you even give a s*** about
That's fine but why are they banning socialist parties, integrating fascist paramilitaries into the army, and privatizing land? That all seems a little familiar.
Yeah we've really cultivated a lot of prestiege on this one, the west definitely hasn't absolutely embarrassed itself and unified large swathes of the world against it. And hey, it only took like three rounds of sabotaged peace talks and and multiple generations of Ukranians fed into a big novelty Northrop-Grumman branded meat grinder.
You mean like the collective west did to Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya? Who's supposed to send the message to our dictators when it's time to stop?
only WE plough into other countries USA! USA! USA!
You could say the same thing but with putin sending the message and it would be more acurate.
For some people, everything has to be a conspiracy. Logical, easily verifiable reasons for things can't possibly be the truth to them. Especially if it comes from the opposing political party, it is automatically false to them. Even if verifiable.
Honestly I wasn't sure of the benefit either, but your response makes so much sense. I don't know why there always has to be conspiracies for obvious stuff.