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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Is this actual money in this case or is this more designated monetary amounts of goods, ie the worth of the guns and tanks and other things we've been giving them that were just collecting dust over here?

Because that's what most of the past monetary support was. No actual money was involved and so didn't really cost us anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yea we just have billions of dollars of military equipment that popped out of thin air and of course will not be replenished in the next trillion dollar military budget.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

We have billions of dollars of military equipment that was made 10+ years ago and has been sitting around since then because we have no reason to use any of it.

To the point where military commanders are begging Congress to not make the military budget so big because it's being wasted on building more assets that aren't seeing any use.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

You have trillions of dollars worth of military equipment from the cold war mothballed or in storage.
Most of it will never see use because it's outdated technology. There are thousands of planes, tanks and miscellaneous vehicles just sitting out in the desert waiting to be scrapped or reactivated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

your answer to your question

the worth of the guns and tanks and other things we've been giving them that were just collecting dust over here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also what amounts are going where? Could be 39 billion to the border and 1 billion to Ukraine.

They intentionally lump these sums together so that they can distribute it as they desire. There is no reason to do this other then to hide funding.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean you could have just read the article.

13B for defense support and 8B in Humanitarian aid for Ukraine. 12B for federal disaster funding. ~7B for border funding, Fentanyl seizure Ops, and other stuff. So the 7B is vague, but it's a budget. You could probably just go to the house or senate page once it's released to get the details.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the worth of the guns and tanks and other things we’ve been giving them that were just collecting dust over here?

Use of reserves motivates replacement. Just because you're giving them weapons that were produced in the past, and therefore whose (production) cost has already been incurred, doesn't mean that occurs in a vacuum. With stock running low, contemporary money goes in to replenishing that stock. In effect, there's no difference whether you send old or new equipment, because both incur costs in the present.

No actual money was involved and so didn’t really cost us anything.

It cost you exactly the amount it cost to produce them. Just because it was produced in the past, doesn't mean it was free. You paid for it X years ago, and are only now seeing it used. You paid for it. Moreover, you're now going to pay to replace it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who are we kidding. You think they wouldn’t just create excess anyways?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who are you kidding thinking they don't want to have a constant state of excess? It will be replaced, it has to be bought.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Idk I guess if the military budget increases significantly more in budget to back fill I’ll believe this. But im pretty sure we’re just giving away old shit that is already being replaced with newer models