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Can't get crontab to run backup script properly (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello everyone!

I'm running a few different services off of my Ubuntu VM on ProxMox, and they've all been running great for about 6 months now. However, I'm trying to setup some better backups and such of individual services, and I wrote a bash script to do that for me and delete older backups once I accumulate enough.

All of that works 100% fine. Like absolutely no issues with the script when I run it myself. However, I can not for the life of me get crontab to run it.

If I run sudo ./folder/directory/backup.sh then everything runs perfectly. However, if I setup my crontab with 0 * * * * ./folder/directory/backup.sh I get absolutely nothing.

I have also tried setting the crontab with sudo, sh, sudo sh, and both combinations without the dot in front of the path to the shell script.

Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?

Thank you so much for any help

Update: I have edited /etc/crontab with the following 0 * * * * * root /mnt/nas/freshrss/backups/backup.sh. After waiting for the crontab to fire off, nothing happened. Still not really sure what's going on.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, right now I’m trying the system crontab instead of my user crontab.

Yes, you should never use sudo inside a users crontab. If you want to run as root then use the system crontab.

I would also encourage looking at systemd timers. They are more verbose then crontab, but far easier to debug and see what is going on. They work off services so automatically log to journald like all other services and you can easily see when they last ran, if it was successful and when it will next run with systemctl list-timers. All things you can do with cron, but requires a lot more setup yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you should never use sudo inside a users crontab. If you want to run as root then use the system crontab.

I appreciate the advice! I had never really heard about the distinction between the system crontab and user crontabs. While it makes sense in retrospect, I am entirely self-taught about this stuff, and nowhere I had looked had ever mentioned that there were two separate crontabs.

I would also encourage looking at systemd timers

Do you happen to know of a good resource to learn about those off the top of your head? I appreciate the suggestion!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The arch wiki is always a good place to look. There are a lot of introduction blog posts around that I have not read so cannot recommend - but plenty to look at if you need more information or a more beginner friendly guide than the arch wiki.

The freedesktop manuals are also worth a look at for more advanced stuff you can do with them - but are not really required for basic things. They just detail all the settings you have available and are much more of a reference than a guide.