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@linux any global mesh networks that could replace ISP's?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

How do you expect to cross the oceans? RFC1149?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Sharks with laser beams!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

packet radio probably, but i hope you like BBSs because 9600bps is blazingly fast over this medium

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I also hope you don't intend to communicate anything that requires security or privacy because, assuming you mean HAM bands in HF, then you can't encrypt anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that's another big limitation

there's probably a way to use encryption over HF, but this would require some kind of commercial license

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean encrypting the data is the easy part, doing it legally is the hard part. Good luck getting a world wide multi-station license....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hear me out - you could run, like, a sneaker-net but with cargo ships!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The bandwidth on that would be just insane. Pity about the latency though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem with using RFC1149 is rounding up and training enough seabirds—pigeons won't fly that far over water. Albatrosses would be ideal, but there might not be enough of them available.

Hmm. Can we instead attach mesh repeater units to the albatrosses, and hope that enough of them take up optimum spacing for long-distance transmission? Or perhaps it would be better to just string a line of buoys across the Bering Strait once Russia stops being cantakerous. Then all we have to do is find a way to connect up Australia and a few assorted islands here and there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What about IPoverFish?

Edit: IP-over-swimming-carrier maybe better. Let's get an RFC ready before next April 1st

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Whales would allow for the greatest throughput, and are technically not fish, so "swimming carrier" works. Plus, another good reason to lean on the few nations that still allow whaling to stop: "Don't kill those, you'll break the Internet!!1!"

The problem with the RFC will be equalling the tongue-in-cheek silliness of 1149 and its extensions. I expect there to be a large section on "encapsulation concerns" (in other words, waterproofing).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

We could also solve the problem of scientific missions not being able to tweet while they are exploring the deep sea!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@wildbus8979 I'm not sure, I just thought it would be awesome yo have a fully p2p internet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You want it meshed or P2P? These are not the same thing...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@wildbus8979 a mesh is a network of p2p devices isn't it? Please explain the differences

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

P2P implies that peers talk to each other directly. In a mesh configuration peers talk to each other via other peers.