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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Anyone here use it, and how is it?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's a web browser. Slower than others and some pages won't work but other than that, it does just that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

...I mean, it's more like the web browser makes it easy to use the Tor network. The network is the slow part. Your requests are getting ping-ponged all over the world intentionally taking the long way around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It's great for anything low bandwidth that isn't tied to your identity, and helps for peace of mind, despite its issues. You do run into captcha or DDOS protection issues occasionally, but the new tor circuit for this site button sometimes works. Also it uses letterboxing to prevent resolution-based fingerprinting, which isn't very pretty, but leaving it at its default size (or locking the size using the WM) works well and is good for privacy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use it sometimes. Startup takes a few seconds longer than normal Firefox and some websites take a bit longer to load.

On the other hand, there's no way to track you. Useful for looking up medical info in a way that search engines and such can't relate back to you. Often I'll keep browsing in it once I've opened it because it's just basically Firefox.

Running a Tor server is useful if you want to host a server on the internet but don't want to deal with port forwarding and firewalls and such, but most people wouldn't have a need for that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, there’s no way to track you. Useful for looking up medical info in a way that search engines and such can’t relate back to you. Often I’ll keep browsing in it once I’ve opened it because it’s just basically Firefox.

This is only true if you have the most "paranoid" security level selected, and at that point anything that relies on Javascript (or any of the other features that get blocked) will break. Enabling Javascript or the other blocked Web features will make it fairly trivial to track you especially the more you browse, so at that point you might as well just be using a regular VPN.

Tor itself isn't the problem in this equation, it's the browser, and they tend to leak information like a sieve

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even on standard settings, tracking companies like fingerprint.com fail to correlate your visits. The EFF's (quite extensive) CoverYourTracks also fails to fingerprint the standard configuration. It helps a lot that and WebGL access is denied by default and that the browser hides your screen resolution.

You can go ultra paranoid if you want to, but you don't need to for normal trackers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Sure, it all depends on how paranoid you are, my point was more that saying someone is untrackable if they use Tor has a lot of caveats.

For the average pleb it's probably fine, if all they're doing is just trying to dodge regular trackers and not the authorities

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's great when you want to connect two devices behind NAT without relying on any specific third-party server or service. I ssh to my laptop from my phone with it when away from it.

It's also useful to circumvent censorship, though it depends on the country. Also, websites employing wide-range IP blocks, in my experience, more often than not still allow Tor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How does Tor help ssh behind NAT?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

You run a Tor Hidden Service with sshd on one device. Knowing the .onion address, the correct port and having the corresponding private key on the other device (all of that not really subject to change), you can run the Tor daemon on it (for Android, you can use Termux) and connect with ssh, using torify nc %h %p as ProxyCommand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use it to access any websites that I want to that Virgin Media block due to court orders issued by the UK high court.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Virgin Media

Damn. Looks like the UK is more restrictive than I'd thought.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I use it, it's a bit slow and you sometimes get lots of captchas but overall I think it's pretty good.