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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Im gonna be honest i really don't care about that. There is no sensitive data on my phone except maybe social media logins and i have a recent backup so🤷

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Odd choice to use GrapheneOS if you don't care about security. More power to you, though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Odd choice to use GrapheneOS if you don't care about security

Not really. People's threat models differ, some just want to escape Google's spyware without also requiring your device be a portable iron mountain. Some may also just want the additional control GrapheneOS provides for restricting permissions of apps, or their unique play store handling etc.

GrapheneOS has a ton of positives besides its security IMO.

For me it's just a little saddening that their secure focus conflicts with extending the life of mobile devices. Although really that's something that probably won't change unless we get a truly open source mobile platform, with firmware development out in the open.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was more a privacy switch than a security switch

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I trust you have your own threat model and know what's best for you, but in my opinion privacy necessitates security.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The long term support might make it worth using, even if you don't care about security/privacy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@SomeBoyo What "long term support"? Official GrapheneOS releases for a device end when the official Android support ends because they don't support hardware where the firmware is not updated anymore. Or did that change recently?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm referring to "... and a minimum 5 year guarantee from launch for full security updates and other improvements", from their FAQ.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

@SomeBoyo Yeah that's the normal devices guarantee you also get with normal android on pixel devices. So in terms of longevity GrapheneOS doesn't offer any advantages. There are other advantages of course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

that's fair I suppose, I wasn't saying not to use it, just that it is worth noting. these strict security policies are what makes mobile platforms much more secure than desktop platforms. I typically use my phone for security sensitive tasks because of this, so I tend to care a lot more about this stuff. if you have any banking info or password managers stored on the device, be careful.

I'll admit, it is pretty unlikely anything to happen, though. always just better knowing.