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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Who the hell thinks beta software is appropriate for real-world applications in something as dangerous as vehicle control at highway speeds?

I've come to believe that all Teslas should be recalled until they get their act together. They're getting people hurt and killed by field testing their experiments on roadways that we paid for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Who the hell thinks beta software is appropriate for real-world applications in something as dangerous as vehicle control at highway speeds?

Ruling class investors, techbro grifters, and the credulous rubes that believe the Singularity(tm) is right around the corner and every person killed in a janky car is only making the car smarter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While I agree, let's not pretend like this is limited just to Tesla. My feed lately has had numerous stories of crazy FSD taxis as well.

I also have to say that one of my concerns with FSD is the deterioration in people's driving skills and their awareness of their car's abilities (especially as those change over time). Leaving aside all the wisecracks about people's normal abilities or not paying attention anyway, let's take a snowstorm. FSD can't drive in it, so you're left with regular human drivers going manual in their cars. But they haven't actually driven themselves in a while, so they've forgotten some of the lessons they learned like how to apply the brakes differently in ice and snow, they don't know where the corners of their car are, they're driving entirely too fast and - because their FSD car was compensating for mechanical issues - they're not aware that their tires are near-bald and the brakes are iffy.

Thing is, I know this is something that's going to happen. I just don't know how we can mitigate the risks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, I completely agree on all points. None of them are ready for full autopilot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Users do. See all the people running iOS betas on their daily drivers, then complaining about a forced reset or data loss.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

A cell phone is not a motor vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You do realise not everyone has access to FSB Beta right? It’s just a select bunch of users and you’re forced to have always your hand close to the steering wheel otherwise it will deactivate.