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Why I dislike snaps (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I think Snap has the potential to be better than Flatpak. It's a real sandbox instead of the half-assed shit Flatpak has going on. The problem I have with Snap is that Canonical keeps the Server closed-source. I don't want a centralized app store where Canonical can just choose to remove apps they don't like. So as long as the Server is closed-source, I will stay on Flatpak

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is Snap's sandbox better than Flatpak's?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is Flatpak not a container system?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Kind of? Maybe?

It has similar goals to something like docker, but goes about it very differently, and it's obviously meant for user-facing applications.

You wouldn't use docker to install steam, but you can use flatpak.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I asked the question because of the label "half-assed" that the commenter above me put on Flatpak. I do not know much about snap, Flatpak and how they differ (other than the fact that both are used as containerisation technologies for desktop apps and the former is by Canonical), and why Flatpak is necessarily worse that snap (by what metric? System performance? Storage?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are referring to flatpaks level of security. It's sandboxing leaves a lot to be desired, as I've understood it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Well probably because you usually don't want it so secure that it doesn't function correctly anymore.

On snap I often need the --classic option to get sth running because it won't run properly in a full ssndbox

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@MigratingtoLemmy @I_like_cats I wondered about that, but to me it just feels like an isolated file system based app structure, kinda like the .app folders in Macs. Does that sound right?

And with permissions, you can stop the app from accessing anything outside of its specific little file system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I see. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

That and these damn annoying loop devices.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if sideloading snap apps is a thing, but it has been proven that creating a snap repo isn't particularly difficult. Snap server being closed isn't really an issue Imho.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

You can create a snap store proxy, but that still has to register and pull from Canonical's source.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Isn't the issue that snap doesn't even support third party repos to begin with? So you'd have to patch the client before you can even access any other servers. Unless they have fixed that in the meantime.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Go restart your browser in the middle of the day because snap just updated it in the background.