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Though that never happened, it's good that it happened. Warm regards from my moms basement.
I also like pointing out how homosexuals and trans folk have always been the first ones to get camped under communism.
And that equality is a liberal ideology.
And that social democracy fixes everything commies claim communism does, except that social democracy works.
Gets em everytime.
Yeah Im bisexual and it blows my mind to see the LGBT+ folks on hexbear. It's as if they have no grasp on history, have no understanding of what a nation trying to have a unitary identity frequently means for LGBT+ people, and haven't bothered to realize that the nations at the forefront of LGBT rights have never included a socialist nation until last month's reforms in Cuba (much respect for Cuba in doing this).
The GDR had more practical rights for lgbt people than the best capitalist countries for most of its history, and Cuba was better on lgbt rights even before the family code. Marriage equality isn't the end all be all, especially in countries where marriage is less institutionalized by the government.
The GDR had good rights between 1985-1992 and really only on paper.
The fact is in most socialist nations LGBT rights lagged behind Western capitalist nations.
Could you back that up? They straight up had state sponsored gay bars and massive anti-homophobia programs
Fir whatever reason either Lemmy as a whole or my computer cannot link back to context right now. Im presuming this was about GDR not Cuba. The reforms that created the gay bars were made in 1985. GDR's LGBT+ rights progress more or less mimicked the West apart from not actively criminally prosecuting homosexuals for homosexuality a bit earlier.
East Germany, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, filipino maoist insurgent marriages, oh and also all current socialist countries are making massive progress on lgbt issues while the minority of capitalist countries where communist led lgbt movements have succeeded in scoring some victories are backsliding.
-10,000 social credit. Bing chilling.
LOL like I had social credit! I'm an anarchist, typically among the first or second wave of political dissidents executed whenever a communist regime that would impliment such a social credit system takes power. Simply put: by the time that matters I'm already dead and hopefully took a few out omw.
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Famines were common before the revolution and in fact were one of the main causes of the revolution. Quality of nutrition improved after the Soviet revolution, and the last time USSR had a famine was in 1940s. CIA data suggests they ate just as much as Americans after WW2 peroid while having better nutrition: https://www.scribd.com/document/430076844/CIA-RDP84B00274R000300150009-5-pdf
Meanwhile, 40 million Americans struggle with food insecurity today https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-insecurity-americans-still-go-hungry-after-a-decade-of-recovery/
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https://www.prb.org/resources/u-s-has-worlds-highest-incarceration-rate/
https://www.aclu.org/issues/national-security/detention/guantanamo-bay-detention-camp
Well I've hit my image limit lol, so unfortunately I can't keep posting pictures of stuff that "never happened and if they did they deserved it," lucky you.
Aww I guess you'll have to get off on gore porn in private now. Neanwhile nobody made that argument at all. The fact that you think posting pictures of bad things that happened under communism to make an argument that communism is bad is a sound argument really highlights the quality of your intellect. I think you've given us sufficient demonstration of that.
Communism objectively failed - the USSR no longer exists and modern Russia is a capitalist oligarchy. The PRC is economically capitalist despite all the hammer-and-sickle flags. Meanwhile, the USA and EU economically and militarily dominate the planet. I'd call that succeeding, dominating in fact.
Communism has not objectively failed. USSR managed to improve lives of millions of people, and the transition to capitalism has been an abject disaster. Claiming that the fact that USSR is no longer around is a failure of communism is a nonsensical argument though. Plenty of capitalist regimes fail, yet we don't see you saying that capitalism failed because of that.
Meanwhile, saying that PRC is capitalist shows a profound lack of understanding of the subject on your part. If you care to educate yourself on the subject then you could read this book https://redletterspp.com/products/the-east-is-still-red
USA got in the dominant position after WW2 not because of capitalism, but because it was the only major power that wasn't directly involved in the war and hasn't been destroyed in the process. The world order that US built is collapsing as we speak.
Hexbear and lemmygrad make that argument, and as a result they get to confront their own ideals until they block me. Fuck em. Tankies think it's good, here it is.
I didn't make any such argument, but clearly you weren't engaging with what I said and instead decided to fight a straw man being the intellectual giant that you are. The reality is that bad things happen in every human society. The question is whether the terrible things you spammed here are an inherent result of the communist ideology or not. And of course the other question is whether communists managed to create a society that has a positive trajectory and how it compares to other existing societies run by capitalists. Clearly considering such questions is beyond your intellectual ken.
https://lemmy.ml/comment/3692789
This you?
Yup, that's me, presumably you have some point you're trying to make there?
So you support communist China and it's actions?
Of course I do, communist China lifted over a billion people out of horrific poverty and has consistently improved the standard of living for its people. Only an absolute imbecile would ignore all that in favor of focusing on tragedies that happened during the revolution.
Ahem.
No u.
Yup, that's precisely the level of debate I've come to expect from you.
I don't waste my time arguing with tankies, only troll. Sick of 'em, and not worth the mental energy.