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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ok, I have to take issue with this. I will never be an apple user, but until USB-C came out I was honestly jealous of the lightning cable. It is reversible and consistent, two things other phone chargers never were. Sure, for data transfer it's outdated as hell now, but it is still good enough for most uses

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It is reversible and consistent

consistent in what?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Consistent in frying pins and fraying cables.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I worked cellular retail for 8 years I’ve never really seen fried pins on iPhones. The frayed cables are pretty much inevitable especially if it is apples first party cables. Shockingly I have had contamination in usbc ports though. It caused several devices of mine to no longer charge due to corrosion. Still not sure what exactly caused it but I suppose it was juice from a vape that leaked into the connector. Basically fried my laptop c ports, my iPads port and my pixel’s port. I still think the move to c was pretty necessary.

Only complaint is cables that have contaminants can easily travel between devices now.

Other than that the protocol support is all over the place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Everyone I know who uses an iPhone has had fried pins on the cable, not necessarily on their device. No one I know personally has had any issues with USB-C.

Though both experiences are anecdotal, I think we can take this away from our conversation at least: no cable design is perfect. Lol!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Consistent in that they used the same type of charger for almost all their devices after they established it. Mini-USB outdoes them in ubiquity, but the connector is usually a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Mini-USB wasn't very common. Micro-USB was common.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Right, that one. My point about micro-usb being good pretty much only because everyone uses it still stands. USB-C fixed all of my problems with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Consistent in connecting /charging on first try, compared to micro usb.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lightning's data transfer and charging are subpar, although I'm not sure if Apple is implementing PD fast charging on the new iPhone either.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

They are not, unless you get the pro as far as I have seen/heard. The regular iPhone is artificially limited to USB 2.0 speeds.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

It is not artificially limited. It’s using the board from last year’s Pro model. It doesn’t have a USB3 interface.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Pro still doesn't have PD charging.

When they go portless (I'm guessing next year or 2) they don't want people bitching that the charging is slower, so they're not going to support wired charging that's faster than wireless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The same law that forces standardised cable by the EU also forces Apple to not go portless, since it needs a standardised port on the device that can be used to charge.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

USB 2.0 vs. 3.0 data has nothing to do with USB PD charging wattage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

This is to force users to use cloud solutions and lock users in the apple ecosystem

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I didnt say it was great, I said it was good enough for a very long time. And in all honesty i think its data transfer speeds were always subpar.

My personal pet theory is that it was designed the way it was in order to make a cost-cutting measure look fancy and luxurious.