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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're usually dudes who got bumped there for being injured, for being psyched, or being incompetent but well meaning. Don't be mean to them, they legit don't want to do what they're doing they know how stupid and shitty it is but they still have time left in contract and gotta trudge it out day by day like the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of them, sure, but there are a lot of stories of how many lies recruiters will tell you to get you to sign on, so a pretty significant number are genuinely bad people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They have quotas blame the system not the consequences.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If they weren't conscripted via draft, they volunteered. 100% their shitty choice to become a terrorist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The average income of a enlistee is below the poverty line, if you can't get a job you can get your ass in the military and make enough to survive.

You act like every life choice is binary.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it was 100% your shitty choice to become homeless. maybe dont get cancer and be in debt to medical bills next time dumbass

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good to remember that not everyone is aware of the bullshit by 17 or 18 when recruiting is at its height (gotta pay for college somehow, right?). I know I wasn't but, luckily planned to do ROTC instead of enlisting, then, educated myself out of being willing to do that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

If "ignorance isn't an excuse" doesn't get you out of any law you break, it also doesn't get you out of accidentally joining a terrorist organization due to propaganda.

Because that's exactly what it is.

It is no different than the teenagers that join ISIS. Propaganda takes them in, they join voluntarily, they live with their consequences for life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are usually uneducated and poor with trauma in their backgrounds. They have no idea what they're signing up for.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

This is an acceptable excuse in 1902.

In the age of Google and where even the homeless bum down by the river has a smart phone, Googling to find out about a major life choice is easy to do. Failure to help yourself do nothing but use a phone for 10 minutes deserves zero empathy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For the same reason I don't get upset at the drive through server when the cook makes my burger wrong. They're just part of the process, not the cause it's kinda hard to judge people for trying to survive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, the policing system encourages screwing over minorities and doing various other scummy things (through a quota system among other things). This does not absolve cops of guilt if they target minorities, lie, or plant drugs.