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[–] [email protected] 202 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's Afrikaans, not Dutch. It's close though. We can understand written Afrikaans.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

For non-speakers, it's kind of like reading Scots as a monolingual English speaker. https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_leid

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did they ever fix the issue that an American teen used a hilariously bad interpretation of the Scots language to write thousands of articles on the Scots wiki?

https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/scots-wikipedia-language-american-teenager.html

https://old.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/ig9jia/ive_discovered_that_almost_every_single_article/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Only partially, unfortunately. There aren't a lot of people who speak full on Scots, the majority of Scotland speaks a dialect of English with a handful of Scots vocabulary now. It's an endangered language.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Funny. If you say the words out loud they're much easier to understand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's like reading a Nac Mac Feegle speaking.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That explains the neutral tone. It's something important far away.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also that newspaper is called "The Fatherland".

It's a pretty good hint of where they stand in the whole Left-Right political spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Which is super weird in it self. I mean, do South African white people call their colonist nation their "Fatherland"?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

FYI- South Africa is kind of unique in that it was settled by a ruling class as opposed to the normal dregs like most other places.

The maintained their close relationship to home and superior status to their slaves/servants much longer than other places.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"mother country" or "motherland" is pretty common for descendants of European colonists/emigrees. I know Germans call it "fatherland" instead, probably the Dutch too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

So this is a newspaper about Europe, I see

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think they call it the Volkstaat

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, the Union of South Africa were participants in the war against Germany, so that's still a bit weird. Don't know about the affiliation of the magazine in question, but the support for joining the allies wasn't clear cut, but only a narrow majority among the ruling white class.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

There was a strong pro-Nazi contingent amongst (mainly) Afrikaans-speaking South Africans. That's not to say by any stretch that Afrikaners were mostly pro-Nazi, though. Jan Smuts was an Afrikaner and was both a Field Marshal in the South African defence forces and the prime minister during WW2 - he wasn't exactly pro-British (he fought against them in the second Boer war), but he was very strongly anti-Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, just like Americans they think it's their country and the original inhabitants have no place in their country.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago

It's Afrikaans, not Dutch.

Hitler dood? Lekker bru!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Would you translate the bold text below the subtitles?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Alright this is what I understand as a dutchie

Hitler is dead and Dönitz is now the leader in Germany, a British newspaper writes today: "Never before in history has the perspective of peace been so ?? made a possibility of the long war"

The sentence structure is pretty confusing to me and I don't know some words

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks you beat me to it.

Yeah it's something like how abrupt the change of prospect is from an extended war to peace.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Obviously, he's so dood.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Crude translation, trying to keep the word order the same.

Hitler's death and Dönitz 's acceptance of rule in Germany led a British paper to write: "Never before in the history has the prospect of peace so suddenly changed to the possibility of a protracted war."