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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Everyone who drinks milk fucks cows?

Am I supposed to take you seriously right now?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Now you see what I've been dealing with

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I'll just throw a piece of bacon on my cheeseburger tonight in honour of that commenter.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I guess I’ll wash down the meal with some ice cream now.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Healthy choices

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why go for a cheeseburger when you could do a veal Parmesan with prosciutto garnish.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I don’t eat veal, that shit is cruel.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

You realise that veal is often just the calves taken from dairy cows, right? If you drink milk you are already supporting veal. They're killed anyway, it's just the difference between them being discarded or being sold.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Pancakes already made that point, if you keep reading you’ll see it.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Oh like you care, go get you some. We won't think any less of you.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I’m sorry I don’t share the same beliefs as you but you don’t have to treat me like I’m less of a person just because you disagree with me.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Oh, we're upset about your treatment now? My mistake. I meant

Good sir, you can have the veal. No need to abstain, it's fully in line with your character and your beliefs. Please enjoy your meal, my lord.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You sure assume a lot about me.

What’s my name?

My age?

Where do I live?

Since you know my character and my beliefs, right?

Or are you just projecting everything that frustrates you on me because I’m an easy target that you disagree with?

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

You don't care about milk, you don't care about veal. I don't know why you'd pretend otherwise.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

You are projecting your prejudices on me.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It's like if you pay a hitman to do some murders for you. Are you a murderer? I guess not technically, but 'conspirator to commit murder' doesn't have the same ring to it. Thus we just opt for rapist, since you support an industry that annually rapes cows and kills their calves so that you can enjoy a tall glass of cow juice.

It's ok if that's what you want to do. No judgement here.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I pay taxes so am I responsible for the murders and wars my government commits?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

You can't really compare the two things. You have limited control over how your taxes are spent, you can vote on how you want them spent and protest the actions of your government, but outside of that it's not up to you.

With milk, though, you are directly financing it by buying the product, and the product wouldn't exist without those things happening. So you are in effect a 'conspirator to cow rape' since your demand incites the act.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Dairy production is heavy subsidized so even if you don’t buy it you are still supporting the industry.

So yes it can be compared.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Ok, so because you're being needlessly pedantic here is the comparison.

I am not directly responsible for the wars and murders my government commits because of the reasons I stated above. But if they had a big bucket that said 'put money in this big bucket to directly support the wars and murders of your government' and I were to put money in of my own free will - then yes I would be directly responsible for those wars and murders.

If I do not put money in I am not directly responsible.

That's the difference between paying taxes and buying a bottle of cow milk.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

buying a product from a shelf is nothing like hiring a hitman.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I used a metaphor to help explain how you can be found responsible for something even if you didn't do the thing yourself.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

but your analogy doesn't reflect the reality of the situation

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I guess I don't agree with you. If I buy a product that specifically requires the death of an animal I would feel like I am responsible for the death of that animal and monetarily incentivising the death of other animals.

If I pay a hitman to kill someone I am not innocent of murder.

You don't get to support an industry that kills animals and then say you're not responsible for the death of animals.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

the animal is dead long before I walk into a store or restaurant, and the people who did the killing have already been paid. I have no responsibility for that.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Without getting into a semantics debate on what rape is. The reason the word is used is because dairy cows are impregnated by fisting the cows asshole and stimulating their cervix before squirting a semen gun into their vagina. The cows cannot consent to this so the word rape is used. Some people might not consider it rape for whatever reason and yes, the word was probably chosen to be provocative. But that's the explanation.

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