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I'm assuming this is referring to JSO.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil
Yes, a lot of their protests are "awareness" stuff (basically none of which do actual damage. Unlike oil, actually!). No, it's not just that. The UK isn't an active warzone so bombing stuff is slightly more difficult to justify.
The reason they stopped directly targeting oil infrastructure in the UK is because the oil/gas giants bought injunctions (private laws) banning protest near them, leading to people going to prison for holding signs on a grass verge outside an oil refinery.
Wow, I didn't know that! That's absolutely wild
I do question the awareness they’re raising tho, it’s not getting people on their side. It’s not. Full stop.
It’s pushing people away and distracting from the actual issue. People liked the private jet attack, people fucking loathed the stone henge stunt.
Just stop oil is a news topic for Talk TV and GB news to make people hate the idea of protecting the environment, and it’s working.
If you've got better ideas, we need them, get out there and get on it. As it is, we're sleepwalking into catastrophe.
Bomb them
They did say what works and what doesn't. Attack private jets and block oil refineries, don't spray paint Stonehenge or paintings. It's not hard to figure out what's going to be popular and what isn't.
NOBODY SPRAYPAINTED STONEHENGE
they threw corn starch on it. Corn starch.
actually loads of people do spraypaint stone henge, but JSO didn't.
Yeah, people don't care that it washes off easily, they don't hear about that part, the point is that those actions aren't popular, painting/blocking private jets is, so just do more of that instead?
Hardly anyone supports painting/blocking private jets. Remember, nearly everyone believes they're just temporarily embarassed millionaires.
How many times have your heard about them painting private jets in the news?
There's that one time they did it, also the time they breached the private jetway in Schiphol and cycled around. Not sure if it happened more times.
Did you know about this before searching it out? Their other activities?
How many articles did it get in major papers approx? How many days reporting?
I didn't search it out, that's what I remember from it being reported on at the time, ie. the thing you asked me about.
Nobody hears about them shutting down oil factories, attention getting stuff is why those are talked about.
They never do any actual harm either, like Stonehenge was cornstarch, it'll all be gone the next time it rains. They paint the glass in front of paintings, not the paintings themselves.
Defacing art is a historical form of protest. The Suffragettes vandalized multiple paintings which are now memorialized for it.
https://womensarttours.com/slashing-venus-suffragettes-and-vandalism/
My better idea is to not do dumb shit that actively turns people (voters) against the cause. Egg some politicians, paint some private jets, people love that shit.
Besides just saying “AwArEnEsS”, what does JSO actually achieve?
Every single person on the planet is aware of climate change, what we actually need to do is convince people to take action. JSO actively convinces people to vote against action on climate change.
.... The root of the thread you're replying's main body is stuff JSO has actually achieved.
The point I’m trying to make is that despite the good stuff they may do, it’s overshadowed by the dumb shit that’s turning people against the cause.
Those actions didn’t achieve much, and I’d say anything they did achieve has been undone by their other antics.
Do you know anyone who has been convinced by JSO to take more action against climate change? It’s only people who are already onboard cheering them on.
I know a few people who have become more anti green because of JSO, and general consensus among anyone I know is that JSO is doing more harm than good.
I have been convinced.
I used to think like you, that it’s counterproductive, but if anything they’re not going far enough.
So sad we cannot bomb the oil facilities.
And you let them? What kind of limp-dick shit is this.
I'm still trying to get my husband's uncle to get off his easy out of "well I guess it's happening, but humans didn't cause it." He, along with a lot of other people, are in an echo chamber. Obviously plopping pigment on monuments isn't going to do shit to convince them, but I don't know what will.
I didn't loathe it.
"Full Stop", lol.
Is that the current temper tantrum buzzword?
I'm sure it is, FULL STOP!
Yes. It belies the fact that they don't want to think about anything past surface-level reactionary takes.