Beginning on 1 April, they carried out England-wide blockades of ten critical oil facilities, intending to cut off the supply of petrol to South East England.[33][34][35]
On 26 August, the group blocked seven petrol stations in Central London and vandalised fuel pumps. Forty-three people around London were arrested on suspicion of criminal damage.
On 20 June, the protestors spray painted private jets at a private airfield at Stansted Airport. The group had been targeting a jet belonging to singer Taylor Swift, but could not locate it.[140]
Yes, a lot of their protests are "awareness" stuff (basically none of which do actual damage. Unlike oil, actually!). No, it's not just that. The UK isn't an active warzone so bombing stuff is slightly more difficult to justify.
My better idea is to not do dumb shit that actively turns people (voters) against the cause. Egg some politicians, paint some private jets, people love that shit.
Besides just saying “AwArEnEsS”, what does JSO actually achieve?
Every single person on the planet is aware of climate change, what we actually need to do is convince people to take action. JSO actively convinces people to vote against action on climate change.
The point I’m trying to make is that despite the good stuff they may do, it’s overshadowed by the dumb shit that’s turning people against the cause.
Those actions didn’t achieve much, and I’d say anything they did achieve has been undone by their other antics.
Do you know anyone who has been convinced by JSO to take more action against climate change? It’s only people who are already onboard cheering them on.
I know a few people who have become more anti green because of JSO, and general consensus among anyone I know is that JSO is doing more harm than good.
Every single person on the planet is aware of climate change
I'm still trying to get my husband's uncle to get off his easy out of "well I guess it's happening, but humans didn't cause it." He, along with a lot of other people, are in an echo chamber. Obviously plopping pigment on monuments isn't going to do shit to convince them, but I don't know what will.
I'm assuming this is referring to JSO.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil
Yes, a lot of their protests are "awareness" stuff (basically none of which do actual damage. Unlike oil, actually!). No, it's not just that. The UK isn't an active warzone so bombing stuff is slightly more difficult to justify.
I do question the awareness they’re raising tho, it’s not getting people on their side. It’s not. Full stop.
It’s pushing people away and distracting from the actual issue. People liked the private jet attack, people fucking loathed the stone henge stunt.
Just stop oil is a news topic for Talk TV and GB news to make people hate the idea of protecting the environment, and it’s working.
If you've got better ideas, we need them, get out there and get on it. As it is, we're sleepwalking into catastrophe.
My better idea is to not do dumb shit that actively turns people (voters) against the cause. Egg some politicians, paint some private jets, people love that shit.
Besides just saying “AwArEnEsS”, what does JSO actually achieve?
Every single person on the planet is aware of climate change, what we actually need to do is convince people to take action. JSO actively convinces people to vote against action on climate change.
.... The root of the thread you're replying's main body is stuff JSO has actually achieved.
The point I’m trying to make is that despite the good stuff they may do, it’s overshadowed by the dumb shit that’s turning people against the cause.
Those actions didn’t achieve much, and I’d say anything they did achieve has been undone by their other antics.
Do you know anyone who has been convinced by JSO to take more action against climate change? It’s only people who are already onboard cheering them on.
I know a few people who have become more anti green because of JSO, and general consensus among anyone I know is that JSO is doing more harm than good.
I have been convinced.
I used to think like you, that it’s counterproductive, but if anything they’re not going far enough.
So sad we cannot bomb the oil facilities.
And you let them? What kind of limp-dick shit is this.
I'm still trying to get my husband's uncle to get off his easy out of "well I guess it's happening, but humans didn't cause it." He, along with a lot of other people, are in an echo chamber. Obviously plopping pigment on monuments isn't going to do shit to convince them, but I don't know what will.