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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh, yeah, you know what, I've already made the decision to accept considerable risk to myself and the people I care about because of my absolute commitment to opposing genocide, but if you just bring up some other random issue, that's totally gonna change my mind. Wtf I love Biden now.

In any case the best thing to happen for the Ukrainian people is that they stop being drafted and forced into a meat grinder to reclaim territory for a state that doesn't care about them. But regardless, it doesn't matter. I'm not going to support a genocide to stop anything! I don't know how I can possibly make that position more clear to you.

Stop wasting your time with me and go waste your time trying to get your party to be less shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I’m not going to support a genocide to stop anything!

Ironically, not even to stop a genocide. You'd rather two genocides happen than try to at least prevent one.

If the trolley is going to run over people regardless, and you have the option afterwards to prevent it from running over more people, the moral option is not abstaining.

Pro lifers who don't believe in any exceptions believe abortions are genocide as well, and are willing to accept any and all consequence of total bans. There's a similarity with your thinking, and it's one you should seriously examine.

Your opinion is your own, as are your beliefs. Just be aware of their consequences and how others may perceive your morality.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ironically, not even to stop a genocide.

Yes, that's correct.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What else wouldn't you do to stop a genocide?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Mostly just I just wouldn't do more genocide tbh.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The best thing to happen to Ukrainians is for Russia to be stopped. You say you are against genocide but are unwilling to prevent the one that can be stopped.

If trump wins anything that happens to you you deserve because you brought it on yourself. It's a pity you are willing to let it happen to everyone else