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A Muslim cleric has been arrested on charges of blasphemy and hate speech in Indonesia after his decision to allow women to preach and pray beside men sparked a backlash in the world’s largest Muslim-majority nation.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah okay, I read that as segregation based on gender.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

FYI women are the ones asking for a woman-only imam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is deceptive because the origin of the ruling is written by male jurists (living with the ideas of gender from their time, a millenia ago).

It is opposed even when muslim men and women choose to have women lead, so the choice only matters when it conforms to the already held view.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems strange (understatement) to block them entirely from leading mixed gender groups. Why not give them the option to lead mixed groups if they want, or if they want a women-only group they can lead that as well?

To be clear, i'm against the sexism in the bible and any other religion as well

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You may want to ask the islam sublemmy for a longer explanation, but the idea is that people should focus on their prayer and not get distracted staring at the opposite gender. That’s why Muslim men and women form two groups when they pray; women don’t want men ogling as they bend over etc. You see the same in conservative and orthodox synagogues; men and women sit on different sides. It’s a practical consideration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Where do I find the religious side of lemmy? I always find people talking about religious culture super interesting, even though I'm far from religious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But men can lead mixed sessions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone has to be responsible, but he is standing in front leading the prayer with his back to the congregation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And a woman couldn't stand in front and face away?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

If you can't handle being around the opposite gender, that's a you problem.