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Not hating on open source, just let people use what fits their expectations and needs and stop deterring them with gatekeeping :P

UX = user experience

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No shade to anyone who uses Sync, but the egregious thing to me is the price. Sync isn’t making the content, just like Reddit wasn’t, and they’re setting the price at a level that it feels like that’s what you’re paying for.

Any comparison to other software makes this pretty clear. If it were $4.99, I’d say that’s relatively fair, but charging 1/3rd of the cost of a new video game for an app that took less than 1/3rd of the resources to produce seems a bit absurd.

People can spend their money however they want, but I also don’t think it’s completely uncalled for to criticize the company for what appears to be price gouging.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one time payment to remove ads is 20$.

People are really overblowing the price. As other ppl have mentioned, lemmy is less than a fraction of the user base of reddit.

The 4x price increase isn't crazy. Devs need to make a living. I talk to Lj every now and then on Discord. Dude has been scrambling since the Reddit shut down to get out a working product. I really don't think it's price gouging to spend 20$ for an app I'll be using for maybe 30-mins to an hour almost every single day.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is the ad revenue too though. If it is impossible to make a living and work on these apps with either reasonable app pricing or no ads, then why is Sync the only app for Lemmy with these strings attached?

I just don’t understand what makes Sync significantly different or more expensive to produce than every other app available right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FOSS apps are hobbies. Sync is LJ's job and will be better given the refinement it has received over years at reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it is impossible to make a living and work on these apps with either reasonable app pricing or no ads, then why is Sync the only app for Lemmy with these strings attached?

Sync is a "professional" app. The others are mostly hobbyists. That's the ultimate difference. Same as with Apollo. You had a bunch of open source reddit clients, but a hobby piece of software will seldom outshine a professional product. Sometimes it happens, but that's the exception not the norm. Sync has been incredibly stable for me over the last day. Memmy on my phone and Connect haven't been. No shade to the devs, but devs approach a solution differently when that is how they support themselves. Passion can only carry a project so far, speaking as a dev myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That makes a bit more sense. I didn’t realize it was being marketed as a professional/enterprise tool.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The lemmy user base is tiny compared to reddit, so the price is higher.

We also seem to be willing to pay it. Personally, I think it's worth it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As long time sync user I'm very disappointed I didn't see the remove ads button before I went and signed up for ultra. Wish I could still buy the permanent ad free while being an ultra subscriber. I tie my ultra to my Google play balance and depends on how much opinion rewards decides to give me at any given time.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It may just be a matter of perspective, but to me, fewer users and content should equal lower price, not higher. I understand what you mean about them not getting an equal amount of money from the user base since there are fewer users, but by that same token, those users are getting less content through the app due to the same reason.

Seems like it balances out where both sides should expect less until things pick up over time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Supply and demand works the opposite of that. When there's a niche market then things always cost more. It's why my baddragon velocoraptor dildo cost me my second mortgage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's my main hangup as well.

The one time app removal fee should be $10 or less. In line with other premium apps.

And the subscription rates are just bananas.

Cut all the prices in half and I wouldn't have any issues.

...posted from Sync for Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What's bananas about $3/mo and 17/yr? Hell I pay 12 bucks a year for unlimited email aliases from Firefox 😂