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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I mean it is weird that society expects men to treat women a certain, positive way (which I'm on board with) while basically saying woman can treat men however they want tbh. Men can be victims too but nobody gives a fuck. This response is absolute garbage.

Bottom line: men and woman need to treat each other with respect and dignity.

Edit: nice kool aid man meme bro. Stay mad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which society are you describing here? I'd like to move there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The entire way our society is structured is telling women how to treat men. For too long it told men they can treat women however they want which is why boys need to be taught while girls can learn it from literally everywhere around them. If anything girls should be taught to not let men treat them however they want.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

For too long it told men they can treat women however they want

This is demonstrably false, as we have certain narratives that are literally millennia old (latin literature) about courtship, romantic gestures, protection and all the other stuff usually associated with how men should treat women. Usually this is some form of protection/care for a lower/weaker being, but it is absolutely a way society has been telling men how to tell women for centuries.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bingo.

The point of the meme is that the guy is butthurt that from his perspective, no one has taught women how to treat men, yet he fails to realize we live in a society where the messaging for women is everywhere.

Girls and women most definitely need to be taught not to tolerate shitty behavior which is much more prevalent to them because men in our male-orientated society aren't taught how to treat people. go out there. Earn. Be a good provider. Your value is only as much as what you produce. You need to have big shiny things to showcase your value. whispers society Don't worry about your emotional development, that's not important. A woman will straighten that out for you later

The guy above called me angry. I'm not really. Just disappointed that men are just finally starting to clue in that a lot of the media out and society's views on men do not have male best interests at heart.

We can do better. I'm angry that we aren't, and that the change is so painfully slow.

I'm an angry optimist.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I dunno. I think the messaging is everywhere for how to attract men, but I don't see too much content about how to treat men either. Certainly historically that was baked into the message, pun not intended, but these days I feel like the message is "you are the table" (so long as you are attractive enough to get a date) which is in part reinforced by the validation from the dating apps women get.

My wife of 19 years still says "what are you getting me for my anniversary" and I have to remind her that it's our anniversary. Until recently my happiness hasn't really occurred to her that is something she should consider. It's all about her challenges and how I can help her, and what she wants to do, or what she wants to watch on tv. I literally am not given a second thought and told I'm wrong until she gets her way.