Woodie Guthrie was more of a folk music guy than a country music guy, but the point still stands.
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I'd also be extremely surprised if there was any, as much as a single (sentient) individual, overlap in the Trump and Guthrie fanbase.
It's more common than you think. Based on my dad's taste in music you'd think he was a socialist revolutionary. In reality he's a "not political" hardcore Trump voter. There's not an ounce of critical thinking to be found inside that brain.
Not entirely true.
The Dixie Chicks apologized for Bush and conservatives responded how they always do, by burning Dixie Chicks records and shirts.
Typical conservative cancel culture lol
Conservatives were more upstanding before Reagan.
Actually, I wonder how much of the problems we attribute to 9/11 can be traced back to the Reagan administration.
This doesn't get said enough:
Fuck Reagan
Conservatives were more upstanding before Reagan.
Were they though?
Segregation has entered the chat.
Oh they were still awful, they simply got worse.
Pre-Reagan they at least had values they could point to that weren't just "Democrat policy bad"
I mean, I suppose maybe if you went all the way back to Eisenhower, who had his own whole of issues to boot anyway, you could say they were still respectable and had values, but like Nixon started the whole "Well, when the president does it … that means that it is not illegal." shit.
...and you'd still have to be ignoring how absolutely bigoted most average people in the US were most of it's history. Like what about the Disco Demolition Night riot in 1979, a fevered rejection of an art form that was primarily made by minorities by young white men? It wasn't just the leaders who didn't have good values.
Rolling Stone critic Dave Marsh described Disco Demolition Night as "your most paranoid fantasy about where the ethnic cleansing of the rock radio could ultimately lead". Marsh was one who, at the time, deemed the event an expression of bigotry, writing in a year-end 1979 feature that "white males, eighteen to thirty-four are the most likely to see disco as the product of homosexuals, blacks, and Latins, and therefore they're the most likely to respond to appeals to wipe out such threats to their security. It goes almost without saying that such appeals are racist and sexist, but broadcasting has never been an especially civil-libertarian medium."
I mean hell, the Stonewall riots were in 1969.
It's really incredible just how quickly the needle has moved on racial and sexual acceptance. If you go back and look at edgy comedy that has a racial component from the early 90s you can see just how far things have come.
The classic example, Blazing Saddles of course has the plot of the new sheriff in the old wild west town being black, and while a lot of the jokes and exact verbaige wouldn't fly today, you can tell that it didnt come from a place of prejudice but simply racial acceptance has improved so much these days. But the part that absolutely aged the worst was at the end there's a fourth wall breaking gag where all of the cowboys accidentally leave the Western film set at the studio and find themselves on the set of a musical, and there's a series of very off-color gags about queer folk in theatre including (straight) male actors overplaying "gay" and feminine traits as part of the joke. This scene quite clearly did not come from a place of tolerance and hits very differently now because of it. Gay men are 100% the butt of the joke in that scene, and not the audience.
You can also tell how recent sexual acceptance is with how certain milestones are so recent. Legend of Korra which aired in 2014 ends with the main character entering into a relationship with another woman, something that was absolutely groundbreaking in childrens television, and that was less than 10 years ago!
A lot of LGBTQ+ people despair unnecessarily at the state of discourse around LGBTQ+ rights. Looking at the arc of history, we've gained rights at an astounding rate. The Stonewall Riots are usually counted as start of the modern LGBTQ+ movement, so just a touch over fifty years. Many other minority groups have spent centuries under the thumb of oppressors with only painstaking movement. Instead, every few years delivers something new. Yes, there are setbacks, but overall things are showing strong improvement.
This is so true. I liked 90s country but after it became hyper-nationalist post-9/11 I couldn't stand it anymore. It wasn't like there weren't patriotic sounding songs before then but some of it was pseudo-countryfried rock and heavily subversive. There was this "fuck The Man" vibe in many songs. Still lots of breakup songs, longing songs, and the twangy equivalent of bubblegum pop - it wasn't all anti-establishment.
Then it became all Toby Keith drunk asshole bootlicking bullshit and I noped tf right out.
There is still good country music out there, just don't listen to the shit on the radio. That's all trash.
The YouTube channel Gems on VHS has a lot of good music.
I feel like pre-9/11 country had heavy influence from folk music. However, post-9/11 country got a lot more influence from current events and current world political climate. A redneck hiphop scene essentially (as hiphop has a long standing history of being vocal on social issues)
Country music since forever: My wife dun died and my dog dun divorced me.
Yes, except nowadays they wouldn’t be caught dead holding a bud light
Got a friend that works at AmBev. Was telling me their profits went up because most the people outraged over the whole Bud Light thing just switched to other, more expensive AmBev brands. Yknow, because they're fucking idiots too angry to even check who owns the brand they drink.
Edit: sp
Not even more expensive, so many just switched to Busch Light
Well, the can has corn on it for some reason, so they can't help it.
Inflexible, defensively aggressive knuckle-draggers.
"wHy DoN't ThE wOrLd LoVe Me? (also, I hate everyone who doesn't look and think exactly like me)"