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[–] [email protected] 198 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Easy to learn, hard to master, used for things it wasn’t created for.

Yep.

[–] [email protected] 123 points 11 months ago

used for things it wasn’t created for

I think Python gets a point here, as it is very good at doing what it was created for.
Javascript even sucks at its stated goal.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You don't master Javascript, ever. You just become accustomed to the madness and stop caring, while sometimes doing things right.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Gotta say, ive done magical things in Javascript. NodeJS in particular can do damn near anything you set your mind to, and it doesnt give a damn if you use tab or 4 spaces.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

For real, you really can do anything there, sometimes sacrificing efficiency, but still.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

what was the original goal of python?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago

sssssssssssssss

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

The goal for Python 3 was to be an all purpose language that the general population could use for their everyday computing tasks

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

used for things it wasn’t created for.

so, like 90% of all programming languages

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Looking nice and upsetting people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

That tracks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Can confirm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

But they're both programming languages...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s the joke

It’s implying js isn’t a programming language because web stuff isn’t real programming

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Web stuff is like 99% of all programming across the world, but okay.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Don’t get mad at me I’m just explaining it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Not even close.

Most software out there is not consumer facing (there is a huge amount of custom stuff inside companies of all sizes) and even in the consumer space most software nowadays resides in ... smartphones.

Unless, of course, you count HTML (literally a Markup Language, so data formatting for display not code) as programming, in which case I'll leave you to enjoy your fantasy world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You kinda forget that for each front end you see theres at least 4 times more backend to support it.

Also there are ton of non fron facing software.

Anyway its not really a competition. No one will be offended if you are wrong or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The back-end functionality is still web functionality. Just because a user doesn't see all the server stuff doesn't mean it's not necessary to support a website. There are billions of websites across the world, and they almost all use some combination of back-end, front-end, database, and server code.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I think they meant javascript is to web dev as python is to software dev

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

it's a 4chan post, they don't "think" they are lawless animals, deprived from any sense of rationality

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I think it's a 4chan post and thus intentionally dumb.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because JavaScript isn't a programming language, it's a compilation target 😅

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

the SAD reality!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago

This one triggers the entire spectrum of human emotion.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Python is the connective tissue holding together library calls and some of our most advanced AI research is reliant on that. mildly concerning

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Many banking systems sync with one another with txt files so... Yeah...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

If you think that's bad, don't think about how many important communications in the world happen completely verbally.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Pretty much all online service APIs (Google APIs, Facebook and so on) out there are text-based.

Granted, JSON formatted text, but still absolutelly human readable text.

The reason for that is because it's agnostic of the machine architectures (stuff like endianess) on both sides.

The really crazy stuff in banking are the old binary protocols (like EDF) from the time when bandwidth was way less than now (so, the early 90s and earlier).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

(Nobody tell him about the Cobol batch jobs that still run overnight.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't want to know how bad it is. A good friend is a consultant/business analyst for some salesforce-based loan software. Shit's terrifying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

SFDC itself is written in Java but uses Javascript-esque APEX for whitelabel development?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I mostly meant the base level shit with text files and ridiculous APIs. Converting from one servicing system to another sounds kind of fun, though. I've always enjoyed doing horrible things to data. The most recent one I heard is there's a drag and drop visual coding tool that I'm told can't export to apex - just make calls to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Many banking systems sync with one another with txt files.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I had to do a project once with JavaScript. I did not enjoy the experience. In my opinion, a language where you need a reference to tell true from false is a bad language. So maybe JavaScript is the JavaScript of languages.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Javascript is the javascript of JavaScript

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

It's only JavaScript if it is from the ECMA region in Europe. Otherwise it's just sparkling java...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a programmer but I took a class in JavaScript. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by reference, I don't recall that feature of the language. Can you explain?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Since JavaScript is newer than Python, sure JS is the Python of programming languages /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

That's not even good rage bait.

Rage bait would be for example if you said "they could fix everything that's wrong with PHP but Python already exists".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Wait let's hear him out

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