Yeah, but in federated social media you can just pack up and set up a new instance.
You won't ever need to leave the whole thing behind to disconnect from corporate BS.
this post was submitted on 05 Aug 2023
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My concerns the product advertisers attempting to sneak in, bragging or something. It felt rampant on Reddit, so itβs probably left me wary. π£
And if that happens, you can bet your ass there will one day be instance-wide ad-block that auto-blocks users/instances known for posting ads.
If that becomes a thing, there will be instances that explicitly filter it out.
The problem is its hard to tell what's an ad and what's not. Sometimes people ARE just enthusiastic about a product they found and want to share it.
It's easier when it's a large company like Burger King or something; like most people won't just suddenly start raving about this great new burger place they found called Burger King. It's different for more obscure companies. It could be actual Lemmy users who are just passionate or it could be company employees trying to sneak advertisements into site discussions.
I don't think there's any AI or other tools that could distinguish the two.
That's exactly right, NorSteve_
That's why I like to start my day with a Whopper and side of onion rings from my favourite local burger joint, Burger King. It supports the community and I get a dank feed while I scroll through Lemmy's dank memes.
Donβt forget to try the new Whopper melt. Add bacon for $.50 more, or make it spicy with another $1.00. Canβt fight climate change on an empty stomach.
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Double edge sword. "This guy is shilling" reports go rampant .
Hopefully, the Reddit bot trackers peeps will move to lemmy, and lend us their wisdom.
I learnt so many ways realise a poster or commenter was a bit from those peeps. Amazing MVPs!
And folks like kitboga taught me that spammers/scammers generally stick to a script.
It's gonna be an arms race! Hopefully we win!
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That's why I started my own instance, I got the freedom to pick and choose what instances I allow, so if any corporation decides to join the fediverse I don't have to wait for the admin to defedederate.
Just make sure if you're using it as a personal instance to make it so no one but the admin can make communities and restrict your sign ups so your instance can't get taken over by nutjobs.
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I wouldn't mind some of the "normies" joining. I'm a programmer too, and while the programmer/Linux jokes get a little bit of a chuckle out of me I wouldn't mind some other stuff.
Amen
Corporations are coming, it's inevitable, but at least this time we won't have to deplatform ourselves to have a sensible discussion.
Someone will try and justify corporate investments. And once they get in, they will infest. They ALWAYS play the long game.
I agree that they will deliberately try to infiltrate, but corporations are notorious for never playing the long game.
Yeah it only seems like the long game because they never ever fucking quit
That is why lemmy is decentralized, no one can buy every single instance. and even when a corporation buys the codebase of lemmy, another person can come in and create their own platform that is still compatible
Are there any corporations on Mastodon? The most popular part of the Fediverse.
Yeah there is, governments too. It's not super widespread but they do have a presence.
Due to how federation and anti-viral Mastodon is though, they can't hijack trends and stuff so a lot will most likely never come.
I felt kinda bad for the people who were here when I joined two months ago. They had their own little community which would get quickly overrun by ex redditors. I wasn't sure if I was a refugee or a colonizer.
If those people want their own isolated communities, those exist elsewhere. You join the fediverse because you expect it to grow and network.
I feel like it's like discovering a hidden place at a lake that's really beautiful. You can't really claim it as exclusively your's but would still very much prefer it if no one else went there, as selfish as that might be
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Being a colonizer or a migrant is up to you π
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Can we stop the gatekeeping and that normie bs, plz ffs
The gatekeeping is especially ironic (or maybe just hypocritical) because they didn't use this meme template properly, lol. You know, like a "normie".
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Itβs certainly starting to show that some people with views who wasnβt here before are starting to arrive. Like people openly trolling, making racist and confrontational comments. Feels pretty bad, it was such a nice haven here.
Control measures are inevitable, like account length requirements, etc. I don't see any way around that to have a usable usergenerated site. A lot of the previous reddit alternatives were full of racism because of who reddit pissed off on the site, but people like that need an audience and they don't generate good content. The nerds who do always have to deal with trolls.
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Great. Now I'm worried I'm a normie and not the "Manifest Destiny" nerd I have been trying to be.
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Seriously though, from the comments, it's seems like the corporate rats gaining ground in places that are federated is going to be a lot harder, and more user resilient.
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controversial opinion; I think lots of companies should host lemmy instances for their own support forums.
I think that news organisations should create their own distribution instances. The BBC has started to set up their own Mastodon server. I would definitely prefer to be able to create my own news feed, direct from source, and selected for greater criteria than how many rage clicks a headline is likely to garner.
Not controversial at all.
There are considerations.
Corporate instances affecting public opinion.
Corporate opinion silencing/moderating public opinion.
All that, and user moderation as well.
A company may not like legitimate dissenters, but it might be in the public interest...
Unmoderated, it might turn into a cesspool.
So, who moderates it? AI/AutoMod? And how? What algo? Does that retroactively apply on updates?
This happens on actual company forums. Yes.
So, we need 2 lemmy communities per company? Their one, and a public one? What if the public one is being unfair? Who knows about that?
It's tough!
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Different version:
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
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One time we thought that Google was a cool startup head on against corporate giant Microsoft π
I dont think you know how this meme works
Don't kid yourself. Its us that fuck it all up. We love getting fleeced by the simplest of content creators. We will walk in every single thing we hate about other sites into this site just because someone entertains us.
Soon as they got our attention, they'll monetize our it and everything will go to shit.
Its forbidden to talk shit about content creators, they make content and content is king.
On the internet, Creative people are the guys in suits. They'll do whatever they can to turn your every waking minute into a 24/7 commercial
I hate the word normie (ususally used by incels and the like)
It's a nickname. His actual name is Normald
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Anything that gains too much steam and mainstream attention is ripe for corporate takeover/infiltration. Federation should hopefully keep them at bay for a while.
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But because it's federated, we can secede at anytime. It's a fool proof system like the united states.
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