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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Does it count if I've actually driven tanks?

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

capabara-tankcapabara-tankcapabara-tank I'm not just a tank, I'm the entire armored divisionedgeworth-shrug

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

i'm tankie and gay and covered in feces (some of which is my own)

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Tankie is an empty signifier

That is to say, it's a label that can be used to describe an array of different and conflicting ideas, values, and identities. Because of this it serves as an obfuscatory device rather than a communicative one. The sub-logic becomes tankie = bad, so if someone I don't like = tankie, then person I don't like = bad.

Almost none of us were alive when Khrushchev rolled tanks into Hungary. Most MLs aren't particularly fond of Khrushchev.

It's made a resurgence in this new, weird context because most of the terms used during the previous red scares lost their power through similar misuse. It's become unfashionable to hate on leftism in progressive spaces, doing so using old terminology makes you sound like a fox news conservative. But you can do the same thing by calling it this instead.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's just mostly teen drama from Lemmy.world users. :)

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

No

To clear definitions, at least for me"tankies" are a subset of communists, who praises/defends the actions of all/most communist states far more than similar actions from capitalist states. The difference between communists and tankies is a bias in favor of communist states when looking at things like human rights violations. Very few people will self identify as a tankie, since it's hard to see your own bias.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The .world libs just couldn't help themselves but ruin our circlejerk.

Sure fuck it. I'll Tankie. Castro is a hero. Western news knows nothing of glorious DPRK Juche, and comrade Stalin did nothing wrong.

Yes.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Seriously speaking, YES.

“The modern revisionists and reactionaries call us Tankies, thinking that they insult us and, in fact, that is their aim. On the contrary, however, they glorify us with this epithet: it is an honour for us to be Tankies, because, since we were Tankies, the enemy could not conquer us, and never will conquer us as long as we remain Tankies.”

--Enver Hoxha, paraphrased.

(As far as Hungary is concerned, I don't advocate for anything that Khrushchev did)

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

No, I think?

I don't actually know what a "Tankie" is. I tend to try to steer away from labels; I consider them a form of intellectual laziness. People will use them to either try to gain a feeling of belonging by adopting a line of thinking shared by their peers, or they will use them to smear those who they have defined as "others" without consideration of why these "others" might hold opinions that they don't. Labels and label-based thinking lead to tribalism and division.

If you want to know what I think about something, ask with specifics. If you want to convince me of something, present an argument with reason and evidence, and be prepared for me to pick it apart and look for flaws. There is nothing I respect more than somebody who takes a comment I make and considers it, researches it and then comes back to me with a response, or presents me with a perspective that compels me to do the same. I find both depressingly rare.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

no i like watching tanks get blown up idf-destroyer

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

NO. Not a fan of the current or former CCP or the former Soviet Union

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

YES

My understanding is that a tankie is defined as someone who seeks to promote global peace, understanding, and equality, with nuanced views that incorporate marginalized and international perspectives, grounded in historical evidence.

That's how I see it used anyway.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

NO

I like having no boots on my neck, not just changing out what demographic is wearing it

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

No.

This isn't my standard instance but I do take a look at it sometimes. I'm definitely very far left leaning, I don't have a label that clearly fits me but I'm probably close enough to anarcho-communism or syndicalism. I live in the UK so it's pretty common for my views to fall further left of the USA.

I'm not particularly good at actually adhering to my own views, infact I don't think I've ever done e anything substantial to bringing my ideals into reality. My dream would be for small federated housing / workers co-ops and unions to get a good handle in my area, and then have the stability to grow.

The crucial reason I'm not a tankie is that I actively oppose top down leadership structures, and I'm actually more against authoritarianism than I am against the right, but I feel that in my country, conservatism and authoritarianism are deeply linked, and a bottom up power structure would do more to actively oppose facism and power consolidation than a far left authoritarian regime.

In short, No. My principles may make me a commie, but I'm an anarchist first.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

I wear tankies when it is hot out.

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