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For me it is when companies/services market themselves as donating to XYZ cause if I buy their product. If they want to donate, they should have already done that with the money they have. Asking me to give them profit so that they can donate is so obviously pretentious.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Buy this thing! Its only $29.99!!!

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Easier question: Which marketing tactics DO you like?

I like Steam's discovery queue, sometimes I find some pretty interesting stuff. It's entirely voluntary, and I can leave at any time, instead of holding my time ransom and demanding my attention with annoying cringe-inducing content like most marketing.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Honestly, sometimes when I can't sleep, watching eSports helps (especially Starcraft II). IDK why, but put on a super chill caster like Wardii and I'm out in 20 minutes.

Having some loud, disruptive ad punch through my ad blocker and try to tell me about Liberty Mutual when I've almost dozed off is close to the most rage inducing experience imaginable. With Youtube now working to inject adds directly into video streams, I'm actually anxious about the future of my best sleep aid.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

All of them...

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

I'm gonna go the other way. The only marketing I acknowledge is factual reporting of design features that make a product suitable for the intended task. Anything else is dishonest and manipulative.

Think of Chris Cooper's character from Interstate 50. Any marketing claim must be specific, measurable, verifiable, and accurate.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Drive-by advertising. When someone joins a forum I'm active on just to let us know about their shiny new product and doesn't participate in any other way. Even if it's relevant, it's still pretty scummy.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Right? Like…”which parts about being manipulated in order to take the money from you that you didn’t even want to have to rely on in a system that doesn’t make sense and actively hates you and uses you and then chews you up and spits you out do you not like?”

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All of them. Make "banning advertising" an election platform, I'll vote for you. Ban billboards and other forms of commercial advertising everywhere. Advertising works, nobody denies that. If you see enough ads, on average, your mind will be changed. By allowing advertising to exist, we are sanctioning widespread mind control. It sounds crazy when you say it that way, but it's true. Advertising does not benefit the average person, it makes them buy stuff they have no native desire for. Advertising only benefits advertising agencies and their clients.

Let word-of-mouth and genuine desire for a good or service drive purchases of that good or service, not advertising, and you'll end up with a more efficient economy where our consumer choices better invest in our shared prosperity and future.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

My vote too. It's crazy, nothing can be trusted when it relies on ads. Everyone likes to think it doesn't work on them or is worth the free content but they are wrong and it isn't.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Advertising works, nobody denies that. If you see enough ads, on average, your mind will be changed.

Can you point to scientific literature that does prove this statement?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Not what you're asking for, but it's the same core principle as irony poisoning, I think. And, I know that shit is real, because it's happened to me. It was kind of a core life lesson to me to watch what I consume.

[-] [email protected] 118 points 3 days ago
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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

I dislike ads that don't indicate the functional benefits of the product and instead nake it about the product being aspirational or about my worth.

The "You're worth getting some deliciousness" for a chocolate bar would be an example.

I'd rather know if the chocolate was ethical, the price, and sweetness level.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

On a related note, when shops let you "donate" stuff you buy at their store to a food bank.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

"Pay us to not let the homeless starve."

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

This one needs to be illegal.

Apps that you need push notifications turned on for, but also serve ads.

For example, where I live the company that does riding sharing also does all kinds of deliveries. I get notifications about all kinds of restaurant deals.

The version of Amazon we have sends all kinds of unwanted messages from sellers if you add an item from their shop to your cart. It can be turned off, but it needs to be done one by one manually.

Even the mobile wallet apps that we use here send all kinds of ads.

Like, I need notifications about payments and that is it. Stop giving me full screen popup ads each time I open the app to make a payment. It just slows me down and frustrates me.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Some android phones have the ability to long press on a notification, click on settings, and alter what kinds of notifications you receive. I've had a few instances like you describe, but where I've been able to turn off "special deals" or whatever. I think implementation of this is done by the app developer though, because I'm sure I've had some apps that had no useful settings. Example screenshot of Gmail settings:

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That’s a cool feature. I doubt the app would offer this as they probably do not want to allow the notifications to be turned off.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

This is good advice but also heavily dependent on the app developer. I've had the misfortune of using banking apps that only have a general notification option and they lump together important banking notifications with adverts. PITA scumbag bank

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Product placements in television shows where the ad becomes part of the fiction.

I officially stopped watching Eureka when there was an episode about Degree For Men. I similarly gave up on Bones when the characters started delivering Toyota ads to each other.

I'm okay with there being a stick of Degree For Men label out in Sheriff Carter's bathroom, or if the cast of Bones drive Toyotas. But when they stop to talk about long lasting anti-wetness or zero percent APR financing I'm fucking done.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

After my mom passed everyone on my cell plan began getting phone calls and text messages to buy her house.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Fucking soulless vultures. I'm sorry for your loss.

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[-] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago

To me it's sending me e-mails I have not explicitly signed up for. I have had once or twice, when I had filled out a form to order something and without pressing submit, they had already registered my e-mail address and signed me up for all kinds of spam, starting with 'weren't you about to order something'.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

Especially when they sign me up for a bunch of different emails lists I need to unsubscribe from each one individually and eventually just spam everything from them. Then they sell my email.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

That's very illegal in the UK and EU, oh my.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

GDPR. Honestly, one of the greatest laws ever passed by anyone, anywhere. No hyperbole, it's so simple and pro-dignity. It also offers a simple litmus test: if you oppose GDPR, I oppose you.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Top 5 marketing tactics EVERYONE hates. You won’t BELIEVE number three.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Number three ONLY available for 2:31:10 read it NOW.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

There's this ad I keep seeing that I really despise. It's for teeth-whitening toothpaste. The actress is wearing a white coat then holds up a tissue to her teeth, lamenting that her sparkling white teeth are 'still yellow'

They cut away to teach you how toothpaste works, because surely you've never heard of this newfangled thing, and when they cut back she's no longer wearing her white coat and says how much whiter her teeth are.

It's transparently obvious that the wardrobe and tissue are just to give you something whiter to look at. But like... your teeth aren't supposed to be freakishly white. It's just something that Big Toothpaste wants you to feel bad about the way your body is. Also, using whitening toothpaste when you don't need it can damage your enamel and cause you long term problems.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Yes I hate teeth whitening in general. I really dislike that unnatural shade of white. What gets me of their advertising methods is that they usually prey on people's insecurities based on the myth that the whiter your teeth the healthier they must be.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

PSA whitening toothpastes are just normal toothpastes with added abrasives. So they temporary whiten your teeth because you've removed the outer most enamel which gives your teeth its hardness. At the mere cost of tooth sensitivity and future staining, the deeper dentine layer is much softer and porous which is easily damaged by acidic foods but also more easily stained due to the porosity. So congratulations your teeth are now more stained.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

For me it's branding something as "AI" as a buzzword. Almost all product marketing is full of AI hype these days.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Paid streaming services that have ads in the UI (youtubetv). Amazon firesticks having ads on the UI. I actually complained to YTTV and they sent me an email explaining why there are commercial on live TV, pissed me off even more.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I dislike the urgency thing. "4 more people looking at this, only 1 spot left".

I also hate when it when the ads follow me around every social media platform.

That's why I love it here. Thank you lemmy.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Fear of missing out, or FOMO, is one of the advertiser's most powerful tools.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Stealing my time for nothing in return. Watching an ad to get content is a transaction. The door to door guy, or the guy who interrupts my shopping with “I’m not selling anything just asking you some questions” is annoying and I’m never going to use their product. The ones that persist after being told “not interested” can jump off a cliff.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

Short of answering any questions about a product I ask, all of them.

If I want or need something, I will come looking. Anything beyond that is the market trying to solicit demand where none need exist.

So much waste could be eliminated if that just... Stopped.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

All of them.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago
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[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Hiding finished/already existing game content behind DLC. Day one patches. Pay 2 Win in General. I just want to play good, finished games :c.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Day one patches exist because the devs continued to work on the game after the physical editions went gold, so the data on disc versions will be behind. They'll stick around even if the industry goes entirely digital due to online stores offering encrypted preloads that won't have the patches either.

Day one DLC usually (fuck Capcom) exists for the opposite reason - the art and asset pipelines finished their work months before launch, so rather than lay them off or have them paid to do nothing, they work on DLC for the last few months before release.

No arguments about P2W. That and the death of persistent lobbies in favor of matchmaking destroyed my enjoyment of multiplayer games.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

They can fuck off, all of them. Worthless pieces of degeneration. Zero sympathy from me.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

The thing is, if I want something I'll go looking for it. At the point where I'm looking for it or something like it, I am happy to consume ads even tangentially related to that thing. If analytics marketing worked this way (showing me relevant ads when I'm shopping for something, even if it's for something I am not actively looking for), things would be better. But ads have worked their way into the cracks of everything and that's my problem with them.

I hate Billboards. I don't like circulars (waste of paper and generally too much trash), I hate junk mail and I think it's predatory. Popups (singing, flashing, scrolling when I scroll to stay on the page, tiny exit buttons, video, etc) are garbage.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I hate Billboards.

I don't just hate them, but I'd straight up make them illegal. At least next to roads. They are specifically meant to get the attention of drivers. How can that be allowed?

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

The job of sales is the overpromise and write checks that their ass won't have to personally cash. Anything they say is to get you to sign on the line.

Fuck em all

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Detaching basic features from an existing free product and making people pay a subscription for it.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

All of them. I dislike every marketing tactic ever invented.

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