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President 360 No Scope... (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We are cooked. Completely cooked. American democracy is over and it's time to prepare for a harsh right wing fascist regime.

...but vote for Biden.

It was too late 12 years ago, this is everything playing out. Everyone acted like the 2020 election was our fight to keep democracy, we had already lost it by then, the conservative plan just hadn't been completed yet.

I am not saying you should go vote and vote for Biden. I am saying that, we can never, ever elect another Republican again, or we are fucked, I do not see the that happening. If we beat trump in 2024, we may not in 2028, or new trump, whoever the new right wing strong man is may win in 2032.

It's already over, it's been over. Our chance to stop this was long before anyone even realized it was a problem.

The problem didn't start, nor does it end with trump, he is just a convenient strong man to put as the face of the movement

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

time to prepare for a harsh right wing fascist regime

Wow, that's a good point, but some people may take it the wrong way and say things like 'what taco bell are we meeting up at to plan to depose the current massively corrupt Supreme.... taco?' 'Is surprise attacks on Taco Bell's military installations a viable objective?' 'Would the taco bell 'fresh crew' join the efforts to over turn the corporate structure?' 'Or should we all just move to Spain and enjoy the authentic taste of a secular society with universal healthcare and tapas as far as the eye can see'?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago

But remember, if you do drugs, you go to hell and fucking die

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago

Congrats everyone, we got the Purge, but remember this is America where hoarding happens. Everyone doesn’t get one day, one person gets 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

The best part is that whatever illegal thing Biden would do, will be designated as an unofficial act by the SC and whatever Trump will do will be designated as an official act. Kind of genius. I was asking myself before how they would get around the fact that they give Biden the same power that they wanted to give to Trump, but they don't by leaving themselves a food in the door to decide on each single act themselves.

[–] [email protected] 141 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Biden has the chance to do a big, big funny here.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He wont even condemn Israel to improve his ratings. At this point it seems that the democrats are trying to get trump elected.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

What if democracy lost 12 years ago and they just pretended the Dems still existed?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Middle of the next debate, right in the forehead. Needs a good walk-off one liner to follow it though, that’s probably the biggest obstacle for him

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If he relly believes democracy is at stake there is only one course of action left

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 2 days ago (2 children)

trump said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose any votes. this all seems like it's going according to plan.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago

The boys did this last season. Its complete satire but its like holding a mirror to reality at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Seems like he's not the only one who can do this now

[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

Does this mean the President can murder the SC members they don't like and replace them?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure. Even better, if you replace them with ones that will rule this was an error and the president only gets qualified immunity, you'll still be in the clear because you were acting on what you thought the law was.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The better move is actually remove the SC, replace it with a new one that repeals all Republican changes since 1980.

Allow the president immunity until the end of this term, then make it a death penalty offence to basically do anything Trump or his cronies have done.

After all of MAGAs leaders are in jail or in the ground for the treason they committed RETIRE and hold an election again.

Their plan will be put back decades AND it'll be in the light of day for everyone to see.

We can't win forever but we can win for a while longer

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Yes, but

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago

Maybe social media was not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Cyberpunk Intensifies.

How long until the President is also the sitting CEO of Raytheon or Blackwater?

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The real question is, if you defend yourself with a gun is it considered self defence or just the assasination of the president?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Its like in that movie with convicted drug trafficker, Tim Allen, where if you kill Santa Clause you become Santa Claus. If you kill the president, even on accident, you become the president.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

convicted drug trafficker, Tim Allen

Is there something I missed?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

The toolman loved his nose-beers:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/tim-allen-cocaine

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

Instead of getting fat really fast, you get old.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Obama literally did kill an american 16 year old in yemen, so this is nothing new.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

And here we unsurprisingly have the fascists lying that this literal right wing coup by the sc is nothing because Obama once did this completely unrelated thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Are you really not aware of how presidents have been doing whatever they want for decades? The supreme court didnt make any new rule, its just ruling on what has been happening forever, and you are just reading headlines and believing the propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obama literally did kill an american 16 year old

Not to be purposely irritating by being pedantic, but I think my hyper-literal thinking style is having trouble believing this. I don't think Obama literally killed a 16 y/o. He may have given an order, approved of it, or placed someone in charge that decided to do it, but I doubt that he personally killed the 16 y/o. Is my understanding of the word "literally" incorrect in this case?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yes you are correct, he just signed off on it, and allegedly they were trying to kill someone else. I am just pretty skeptical that this wasnt some kind of message from the CIA that they will kill whoever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But that kid was killed by an attack marked ''to whom it may concern'', not a focused deliberate attack with his name on it. He was a casualty, not a victim of assassination.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So... Same as it's been since the war on terror began in 2001?

Oh, now they can assassinate white people in first world countries, not just drop bombs on weddings in mideast countries. I see. Totally makes all the difference.

(I am feeling very cynical here haha, I get this is a big significant legal precedent for the USA but yeah)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This was kind of my response. Everyone is thinking of Trump's shit, I was wondering about Al Awlaki. Assassinate a 16yo American citizen at a child's birthday party in Yemen? Np.

What result did we expect except some weird middle ground that allows the war on terror and a shitload of other extra-judicial killings with no proper declaration of war? They're codifying immunity that was already assumed.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for being a far better person than I, in that you actually give enough of a fuck to remember at least one specific, named person who was murdered in the way I was described.

This is not sarcasm it's a genuine emotional appreciation. I don't have it in me to remember, since all the shit news day in and day out just all blurs together and is too much for me to cope with if I tried to remember, but I'm glad someone is.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago

So, the President is legally allowed to just kill anyone, but if anyone is resisting, even just saying “if you kill my uncle’s nephew’s father’s roommate and I will seek revenge”, it’s

18 U.S. Code § 1751 - “Presidential and Presidential staff assassination, kidnapping, and assault,” which covers attempts to kill or inflict harm on the President.

18 U.S. Code § 871 - “Threats against the President and successors to the Presidency,” which criminalizes threats to kill or harm the President.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's an Onion article, right?

Right?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (6 children)

If it is an official act, which would mean they would have to assassinate you in their function of being the president. In other words, they couldn't just kill their neighbors.

They could probably kill them as part of a celebration, I guess. Jk, I hope.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

"Trump was a threat to democracy and I took appropriate action"

Literal fascist shit? Yes. Legal? Who knows? By the time they figure it out, biden will be dead from old age.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have seen this plot before... In a game from Japan where the president beats everyone up in a fucking giant mecha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Honestly, Michael Wilson was willing to ride on the outside of a rocket into space and put his life on the line to save America from nuclear armageddon. We'd be fucking lucky if we had anyone with that level of conviction and love for their country in charge.

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